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Sun, 19 Jun 2022 23:05:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ilozpzce.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:40:17 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::334; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x334.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291455 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > For example, what is your opinion of using Org markup in email > messages? There are a lot of examples of that, both here and on the > bug tracker. People use Org markup and Org-style code blocks quite a > lot, and reading that is always jarring to me. For some reason, > people assume that I read my email in Org mode or some derivative of > Org. (There's been a whole subthread about this particular point, but I don't think I saw anyone spell this out clearly so here we go:) lisp/gnus/mm-uu.el has picked up on Org-style code blocks since 2011-01-20 "mm-decode.el (mm-inline-media-tests): Add text/x-sh. [=E2=80=A6= ]" (6e3165fb24). That's around the time I discovered Emacs; I used Gnus as my daily mail driver for years before I opened my first Org file. I've probably sent a couple #+begin_src's before even knowing what Org was, assuming it was one of those conventions Emacs picked up on (like "> " citations, "--" signature blocks and "--- 8< ---" scissor lines). (I don't even remember when I realized that Emacs shipped more than one MUA, and that not every maintainer used Gnus) So apologies for partaking in that practice. FWIW, if my story is any indication, not everyone who sent those blocks was inherently advocating for using Org syntax pervasively: they might just have assumed that it made life better for anyone reading their mail with Emacs (because they automatically got syntax highlighting out of it), and not realize that instead they were making it worse (by sandwiching perfectly good code between noisy sigils).