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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293932 Archived-At: Thomas Fitzsimmons writes: > Since we're talking about extreme ideas, how about this: create a light > fork of GTK that contains a bunch of bug fixes that make Emacs happy, > pull it in as a submodule, build it as part of Emacs's > --with-x-toolkit=gtk build, then have the Emacs binary load the forked > GTK library at runtime. (Or to borrow a term from other language > communities, Emacs could "vendor" GTK.) GTK's copyright is not assigned to the FSF.