From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A more radical cleanup for make bootstrap? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295786 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > I don't know exactly. Stefan M and Po Lu both asked for a "less > radical" bootstrap, which is what that "soft-bootstrap" would have > done. But now Stefan said it's not that important to him. So I guess > there's no need for a "soft-bootstrap" anymore, unless someone tells > otherwise. What about me? It generally takes 10-15 minutes for me to build Emacs in ideal conditions from "make bootstrap", with much of that time taken up by building temacs. It takes longer when I am actually working on Emacs, because that typically happens while my machine is already under load.