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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 968115bfa2206c7a73ae1d0fcaf41e4c; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:56:29 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83h711ueqo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:51:59 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20663 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295900 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes. I actually don't understand how can people use some other > policy, when moving focus to another frame or a different application > requires that you click on its window. That basically means yopu > never work with more than one frame/window. Interesting. In the X world, we have mostly switched to "some other strategy", because that is what MS Windows does by default (and people are as a result used to.)