From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Protesilaos Stavrou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] Add Agitate package Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:52:57 +0300 Message-ID: <87pmfewwue.fsf@protesilaos.com> References: <875yh9xsmx.fsf@protesilaos.com> <87ill8er5k.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35973"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Notmuch/0.37 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas , Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 29 07:56:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odmXZ-00099z-33 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:56:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odmXY-0006Mo-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34748) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odmTs-0005Em-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::227]:35507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odmTq-0008KC-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: public@protesilaos.com) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50A6820004; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:52:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protesilaos.com; s=gm1; t=1664430780; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Jtr1Ha/UnsD/xRcgS66NsFMbfp8lMG0liGTN2zUlDUk=; b=GGhry0QNS5xdCHA+qo8E+iQTC4fAMBQspfYAcJF7sVp+SKtB8Q6eJioDB/OGU4UmzX7Px7 NB8blhkPtH+zdtd9gtHdYv/1O+owbC3o5xaR/lpi7jTw9iUjYyudB66dGEjCvS2lIwfpHT QWkq0+MLNgc5B6+QeRaaSzR5Cp9Hp1wzCFc5LS2qh/H7v/jOhcigcOjd88GcujxWn6Pmi0 8q/02jCTdoCBuU7BvxT8JMVPTjTyvLk+madUZblWe1INJdVfpF+ZFfzSx9My8i1eidJpou GqWiRNjLCcxA1D3wk7oQToYl6N35LiMQGJnL/+CNaawM+HNOF++bmBYE5NPgUA== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::227; envelope-from=info@protesilaos.com; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296444 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 07:00:58 -0400 > > Sean Whitton writes: > >> In that case, it doesn't make too much sense to me to add it to ELPA, >> but not for the reasons that you give. It's not that code which is >> targeting emacs.git cannot go on ELPA first, but it seems to me that >> anything on ELPA should be a coherent, singular package. And Agitate >> isn't that -- it's a collection of functionality that you're filtering >> things out of over time. > > FWIW, I don't think this is a very strong reason not to add it. Other > packages are also grab bags of features, and while perhaps not "ideal" > in an abstract sense, they also provide useful functionality. In this > case it also makes sense to me to use a package as a way to experiment > with features before they hit core. > > We can always delete the package later, once it has done its intended > job and is fully absorbed by Emacs. Okay. I will add the package and promise to delete it when necessary. There will not be a formal release for the time being. I will keep it at version 0.0.0 so only those using GNU ELPA Devel will find it. -- Protesilaos Stavrou https://protesilaos.com