* Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
@ 2005-08-09 15:19 Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-09 19:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
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From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-09 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Would someone please look through the Emacs Lisp Manual
for nodes that are inconveniently long, and send me a list
of nodes you recommend perhaps splitting?
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-09 15:19 Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual Richard M. Stallman
@ 2005-08-09 19:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-10 15:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
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From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-08-09 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
Richard Stallman wrote:
Would someone please look through the Emacs Lisp Manual
for nodes that are inconveniently long, and send me a list
of nodes you recommend perhaps splitting?
Note that splitting (or renaming) a node is a very disruptive
operation, because after doing that many xrefs (as well as hyperlinks
from docstrings and Custom buffers) may point to a wrong node (or to
nowhere). If one splits or renames a node, one should at the very
least carefully grep the lispref and man directories, as well as (for
docstrings and Custom buffers) the src directory and the lisp
directory and all its subdirectories. There is of course no way to
avoid messing up xrefs or hyperlinks in docs not included with the
Emacs distribution.
We discussed this before and decided then that all the work involved
in systematically splitting all large nodes was not worth holding up
the release and that, moreover, several of the very largest nodes
(including the record holder, `(elisp)Window Frame Parameters', 342
lines), could not be split in any natural way. It would have been
relatively better to do this before starting to proofread the Elisp
manual, because that way there would have been a better chance of
spotting trouble with bad references before they got included with the
release.
In as far as the recent split of `Minibuf Misc' is concerned, doing
M-x find-grep-dired on the `emacs' directory for the old node name and
then using the Dired `A' command for the old node name with all
potential trouble files marked, turned up two newly incorrect
references, which I already corrected in CVS. The reason that there
were "only" two was that I already replaced many xrefs to that node
with anchors, which are immune to renaming and splitting. Otherwise,
there would have been a lot more.
Sincerely,
Luc.
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-09 19:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
@ 2005-08-10 15:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-11 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
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From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-10 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
Splitting nodes that are too long is part of getting the manual ready.
Since you mentioned the challenge of Window Frame Parameters, I just
split it up. I also fixed the xrefs to it.
What other large nodes can I split?
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-10 15:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
@ 2005-08-11 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-11 17:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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From: Juri Linkov @ 2005-08-11 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
> What other large nodes can I split?
FWIW, below is a list of node names sorted by their line numbers.
I think not only long nodes should be checked, but also the shortest
nodes too. For example, the node `(elisp)Inverse Video' has 11 lines
and documents a semi-obsolete option `inverse-video'. Its menu item
description in its upper node is too general:
* Inverse Video Specifying how the screen looks.
Almost every other its adjacent node specifies "how the screen looks".
Perhaps this node should be merged with some other node.
List of nodes:
1347 (info "(emacs)Command Index")
1334 (info "(emacs)Glossary")
1185 (info "(emacs)Acknowledgments")
992 (info "(elisp)Top")
856 (info "(emacs)Key Index")
802 (info "(emacs)Top")
645 (info "(emacs)Variable Index")
544 (info "(emacs)Manifesto")
375 (info "(emacs)GNU Free Documentation License")
375 (info "(elisp)GNU Free Documentation License")
362 (info "(elisp)GPL")
361 (info "(emacs)Copying")
361 (info "(emacs)Regexps")
358 (info "(elisp)Buffer Internals")
348 (info "(elisp)Coding Conventions")
337 (info "(emacs)Checklist")
291 (info "(elisp)Low-Level Network")
258 (info "(elisp)Writing Emacs Primitives")
252 (info "(elisp)Time Conversion")
252 (info "(elisp)Special Properties")
242 (info "(elisp)Building Lists")
240 (info "(elisp)Association Lists")
236 (info "(elisp)System Environment")
233 (info "(elisp)Synchronous Processes")
232 (info "(emacs)Antinews")
231 (info "(elisp)Choosing Window")
221 (info "(elisp)Sorting")
217 (info "(elisp)Documentation Tips")
216 (info "(elisp)Window Internals")
215 (info "(elisp)Bitwise Operations")
211 (info "(elisp)Search-based Fontification")
209 (info "(elisp)Parsing Expressions")
208 (info "(elisp)Composite Types")
207 (info "(elisp)Garbage Collection")
205 (info "(elisp)Creating Strings")
204 (info "(elisp)Interactive Codes")
204 (info "(elisp)Example Major Modes")
202 (info "(elisp)Disassembly")
202 (info "(elisp)Auto-Saving")
200 (info "(emacs)Visiting")
200 (info "(elisp)Major Mode Conventions")
199 (info "(elisp)Active Keymaps")
197 (info "(elisp)Standard Errors")
195 (info "(elisp)Specification List")
195 (info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
193 (info "(elisp)Standard Buffer-Local Variables")
192 (info "(elisp)Simple Types")
192 (info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
191 (info "(emacs-xtra)Sexp Diary Entries")
191 (info "(emacs)Specify Coding")
189 (info "(elisp)Textual Scrolling")
189 (info "(elisp)Overlay Properties")
188 (info "(elisp)Type Predicates")
187 (info "(elisp)Magic File Names")
187 (info "(elisp)Face Attributes")
183 (info "(emacs)Spelling")
183 (info "(emacs)General Variables")
183 (info "(elisp)The Mark")
183 (info "(elisp)Changing Key Bindings")
182 (info "(elisp)Translating Input")
180 (info "(elisp)Basic Completion")
178 (info "(emacs)Recognize Coding")
177 (info "(elisp)Setting Variables")
177 (info "(elisp)Formatting Strings")
176 (info "(elisp)Creating Buffer-Local")
175 (info "(elisp)Creating Symbols")
175 (info "(elisp)Arithmetic Operations")
174 (info "(emacs)Init Examples")
174 (info "(elisp)Text from Minibuffer")
171 (info "(emacs)Shell Mode")
171 (info "(emacs)Changing a Variable")
170 (info "(elisp)File Attributes")
170 (info "(elisp)Changing Files")
170 (info "(elisp)Bindat Examples")
169 (info "(elisp)Handling Errors")
168 (info "(emacs)GTK styles")
168 (info "(elisp)Saving Buffers")
166 (info "(elisp)Splitting Windows")
165 (info "(elisp)Tool Bar")
165 (info "(elisp)Regexp Search")
165 (info "(elisp)Imenu")
165 (info "(elisp)Character Type")
164 (info "(elisp)Variable Definitions")
164 (info "(elisp)Image Descriptors")
160 (info "(elisp)Defining Variables")
158 (info "(elisp)Attribute Functions")
157 (info "(elisp)Interactive Call")
157 (info "(elisp)Auto Major Mode")
156 (info "(emacs)TeX Print")
156 (info "(emacs)Standard Faces")
156 (info "(elisp)Syntax Class Table")
156 (info "(elisp)Filling")
155 (info "(elisp)Compilation Functions")
154 (info "(elisp)Sets And Lists")
154 (info "(elisp)Reading File Names")
154 (info "(elisp)Help Functions")
153 (info "(emacs)Several Buffers")
153 (info "(elisp)Standard Keymaps")
153 (info "(elisp)List Elements")
152 (info "(elisp)Rearrangement")
151 (info "(emacs)MS-DOS and MULE")
151 (info "(elisp)Autoload")
149 (info "(elisp)Accessing Events")
148 (info "(emacs)Mouse Commands")
148 (info "(emacs)File Variables")
148 (info "(elisp)Mode Line Variables")
148 (info "(elisp)Format Conversion")
146 (info "(emacs)Tag Syntax")
146 (info "(elisp)Current Buffer")
146 (info "(elisp)Char-Tables")
145 (info "(elisp)Timers")
145 (info "(elisp)Process Information")
144 (info "(elisp)Screen Lines")
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144 (info "(elisp)Accessing Documentation")
143 (info "(emacs)Saving")
143 (info "(elisp)Input Streams")
143 (info "(elisp)Functions for Key Lookup")
143 (info "(elisp)Display Feature Testing")
142 (info "(emacs)Position Info")
142 (info "(elisp)Mode Line Data")
141 (info "(emacs-xtra)Holiday Customizing")
141 (info "(elisp)Resizing Windows")
141 (info "(elisp)Eval")
139 (info "(elisp)Window Start")
138 (info "(emacs)Display Custom")
138 (info "(emacs)Basic Keyboard Macro")
137 (info "(emacs)Scrolling")
136 (info "(elisp)Defining Advice")
135 (info "(elisp)Text Comparison")
135 (info "(elisp)Property Search")
133 (info "(emacs)Operating on Files")
133 (info "(emacs)MS-DOS Printing")
133 (info "(elisp)Visiting Functions")
133 (info "(elisp)Library Headers")
133 (info "(elisp)File Name Expansion")
132 (info "(emacs)Table of Resources")
132 (info "(elisp)Default Coding Systems")
131 (info "(elisp)Defining Minor Modes")
130 (info "(emacs)Font X")
130 (info "(elisp)Undo")
130 (info "(elisp)Managing Overlays")
129 (info "(emacs)Mode Line")
129 (info "(elisp)Temporary Displays")
129 (info "(elisp)Hooks")
128 (info "(elisp)Named Features")
128 (info "(elisp)Click Events")
128 (info "(elisp)Bindat Spec")
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127 (info "(elisp)Buffer File Name")
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126 (info "(elisp)Abbrev Expansion")
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124 (info "(elisp)Completion Commands")
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116 (info "(elisp)Testing Accessibility")
116 (info "(elisp)Fontsets")
116 (info "(elisp)Equality Predicates")
116 (info "(elisp)Cyclic Window Ordering")
115 (info "(emacs)Rmail Reply")
115 (info "(elisp)Search and Replace")
115 (info "(elisp)Input Focus")
114 (info "(emacs)Moving Point")
114 (info "(elisp)Usual Display")
114 (info "(elisp)Simple Match Data")
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112 (info "(elisp)Key Sequence Input")
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110 (info "(elisp)Syntax Table Functions")
110 (info "(elisp)Standard Faces")
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109 (info "(elisp)Font Selection")
108 (info "(emacs)Query Replace")
108 (info "(elisp)Activation of Advice")
107 (info "(emacs)Electric C")
107 (info "(emacs)Choosing Modes")
107 (info "(elisp)Minor Mode Conventions")
107 (info "(elisp)Contents of Directories")
106 (info "(emacs)LessTif Resources")
106 (info "(elisp)Network")
106 (info "(elisp)Internals of Debugger")
106 (info "(elisp)Event Input Misc")
105 (info "(emacs)Resources")
105 (info "(elisp)Special Forms")
105 (info "(elisp)How Programs Do Loading")
105 (info "(elisp)Fields")
104 (info "(emacs)Undo")
104 (info "(emacs)Table Conversion")
104 (info "(elisp)Window Configurations")
104 (info "(elisp)Selecting Windows")
104 (info "(elisp)Converting Representations")
104 (info "(elisp)Classifying Events")
103 (info "(elisp)Using Interactive")
103 (info "(elisp)String Conversion")
103 (info "(elisp)Selective Display")
103 (info "(elisp)Directory Names")
103 (info "(elisp)%-Constructs")
102 (info "(emacs)Outline Visibility")
102 (info "(elisp)Recursive Editing")
102 (info "(elisp)Format of Keymaps")
102 (info "(elisp)Edebug Options")
102 (info "(elisp)Anonymous Functions")
101 (info "(emacs)User Input")
101 (info "(emacs)Text and Binary")
101 (info "(emacs)Special Diary Entries")
101 (info "(elisp)Narrowing")
101 (info "(elisp)Links and Mouse-1")
101 (info "(elisp)Comparison of Numbers")
100 (info "(emacs)Defining Fontsets")
100 (info "(emacs)Change Window")
100 (info "(elisp)Symbol Components")
100 (info "(elisp)Making Backups")
100 (info "(elisp)Insertion")
100 (info "(elisp)Eval List")
99 (info "(emacs)Input Methods")
99 (info "(elisp)Startup Summary")
99 (info "(elisp)Prefix Keys")
98 (info "(emacs)Mail Aliases")
98 (info "(elisp)Tips for Defining")
98 (info "(elisp)Killing Buffers")
98 (info "(elisp)Deletion")
98 (info "(elisp)Combining Conditions")
98 (info "(elisp)Case Tables")
98 (info "(elisp)Case Conversion")
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97 (info "(emacs)Compilation")
97 (info "(emacs)Change Log")
97 (info "(elisp)Writing to Files")
97 (info "(elisp)Unique File Names")
97 (info "(elisp)Sentinels")
97 (info "(elisp)Other Display Specs")
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97 (info "(elisp)Change Hooks")
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95 (info "(emacs)Help Summary")
95 (info "(emacs)Function Keys")
95 (info "(elisp)Frame-Local Variables")
95 (info "(elisp)Derived Modes")
95 (info "(elisp)Debugger Commands")
95 (info "(elisp)Asynchronous Processes")
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94 (info "(emacs)Inserting Text")
94 (info "(elisp)Minibuffer History")
94 (info "(elisp)Line Height")
94 (info "(elisp)Key Binding Commands")
94 (info "(elisp)Defining Functions")
94 (info "(elisp)Color Names")
94 (info "(elisp)A Sample Function Description")
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91 (info "(emacs)Comment Commands")
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90 (info "(emacs)Movemail")
90 (info "(emacs)Foldout")
90 (info "(emacs)Emulation")
90 (info "(elisp)Signaling Errors")
90 (info "(elisp)Repeat Events")
90 (info "(elisp)Multiple Queries")
90 (info "(elisp)List Motion")
90 (info "(elisp)Displaying Messages")
90 (info "(elisp)Buffer Names")
89 (info "(emacs)Fortran Comments")
89 (info "(emacs)Deletion")
89 (info "(elisp)Low-Level Kill Ring")
89 (info "(elisp)Catch and Throw")
89 (info "(elisp)Basic Windows")
89 (info "(elisp)Adaptive Fill")
88 (info "(emacs-xtra)Diary Customizing")
88 (info "(emacs)Lisp Eval")
88 (info "(emacs)Fill Prefix")
88 (info "(elisp)Registers")
88 (info "(elisp)Invoking the Debugger")
88 (info "(elisp)Comment Tips")
87 (info "(emacs)Minibuffer History")
87 (info "(emacs)Indentation")
87 (info "(emacs)Fill Commands")
87 (info "(emacs)Emacs Server")
87 (info "(emacs)Displaying the Diary")
87 (info "(emacs)Create Tags Table")
87 (info "(elisp)Void Variables")
87 (info "(elisp)Signals to Processes")
87 (info "(elisp)Reverting")
87 (info "(elisp)Display Table Format")
87 (info "(elisp)Command-Line Arguments")
87 (info "(elisp)Box Diagrams")
86 (info "(emacs)Exiting")
86 (info "(elisp)Function Keys")
86 (info "(elisp)Edebug Execution Modes")
86 (info "(elisp)Default Value")
85 (info "(emacs)Lucid Resources")
85 (info "(emacs)Help")
84 (info "(emacs)Frame Parameters")
84 (info "(elisp)Size and Position")
84 (info "(elisp)Scroll Bars")
84 (info "(elisp)Lisp and Coding Systems")
84 (info "(elisp)Intro to Buffer-Local")
84 (info "(elisp)Integer Basics")
84 (info "(elisp)Describing Characters")
84 (info "(elisp)Argument List")
83 (info "(emacs-xtra)Supporting additional buffers")
83 (info "(elisp)Window System Selections")
83 (info "(elisp)Sticky Properties")
83 (info "(elisp)Expansion")
83 (info "(elisp)Argument Access in Advice")
82 (info "(emacs)Rmail Output")
82 (info "(elisp)Time of Day")
82 (info "(elisp)Setcar")
82 (info "(elisp)Near Point")
82 (info "(elisp)Error Symbols")
82 (info "(elisp)Color Parameters")
82 (info "(elisp)Argument Evaluation")
81 (info "(emacs)MS-DOS Display")
81 (info "(emacs)Locals")
81 (info "(emacs)Interlocking")
81 (info "(emacs)Init Rebinding")
81 (info "(emacs)Holidays")
81 (info "(elisp)Strings of Events")
81 (info "(elisp)Object from Minibuffer")
81 (info "(elisp)Minibuffer Completion")
81 (info "(elisp)Mapping Functions")
81 (info "(elisp)Coding System Basics")
81 (info "(elisp)Cleanups")
81 (info "(elisp)Case Changes")
81 (info "(elisp)Atomic Changes")
80 (info "(emacs)Select Input Method")
80 (info "(emacs)Rmail Motion")
80 (info "(emacs)Find Tag")
80 (info "(emacs)Bookmarks")
80 (info "(emacs)Arguments")
80 (info "(elisp)Variable Aliases")
80 (info "(elisp)Suspending Emacs")
80 (info "(elisp)Numeric Conversions")
80 (info "(elisp)Menu Bar")
80 (info "(elisp)Explicit Encoding")
80 (info "(elisp)Encoding and I/O")
79 (info "(emacs)Shell Ring")
79 (info "(elisp)Subprocess Creation")
79 (info "(elisp)File Local Variables")
79 (info "(elisp)Common Keywords")
78 (info "(emacs)Rebinding")
78 (info "(emacs)Keymaps")
78 (info "(emacs)Init Syntax")
78 (info "(elisp)User Identification")
78 (info "(elisp)Misc Events")
78 (info "(elisp)Function Indirection")
78 (info "(elisp)Examining Properties")
77 (info "(emacs-xtra)Hebrew/Islamic Entries")
77 (info "(emacs)Version Headers")
77 (info "(emacs)Remote Mailboxes")
77 (info "(emacs)Overview of Emerge")
77 (info "(emacs)Other Repeating Search")
77 (info "(emacs)Hooks")
77 (info "(elisp)Setcdr")
77 (info "(elisp)Pop-Up Menus")
77 (info "(elisp)Overview of Markers")
77 (info "(elisp)Keymap Terminology")
77 (info "(elisp)File Locks")
77 (info "(elisp)Commands for Insertion")
77 (info "(elisp)Buffers and Windows")
77 (info "(elisp)Array Functions")
76 (info "(emacs)Single-Byte Character Support")
76 (info "(emacs)Setting Mark")
76 (info "(emacs)Remote Files")
76 (info "(emacs)Mayan Calendar")
76 (info "(emacs)Keyboard Macro Counter")
76 (info "(emacs)HTML Mode")
76 (info "(emacs)Format Faces")
76 (info "(elisp)User-Chosen Coding Systems")
76 (info "(elisp)Showing Images")
76 (info "(elisp)Sequencing")
76 (info "(elisp)Input to Processes")
75 (info "(emacs)Rmail Summary Edit")
75 (info "(emacs)Rmail Inbox")
75 (info "(elisp)Rings")
75 (info "(elisp)Images")
74 (info "(emacs)Words")
74 (info "(emacs)TeX Editing")
74 (info "(emacs)Face Resources")
74 (info "(emacs)Defining Abbrevs")
74 (info "(emacs)Customization Groups")
74 (info "(elisp)Vector Functions")
74 (info "(elisp)Init File")
73 (info "(emacs)Format Justification")
73 (info "(elisp)Window Hooks")
73 (info "(elisp)Translation of Characters")
73 (info "(elisp)Text Representations")
73 (info "(elisp)Reading One Event")
73 (info "(elisp)Iteration")
73 (info "(elisp)Intro Eval")
73 (info "(elisp)File Name Completion")
72 (info "(emacs)Specific Customization")
72 (info "(emacs)Single Shell")
72 (info "(elisp)Warning Variables")
72 (info "(elisp)Font Lookup")
71 (info "(emacs)VC Dired Mode")
71 (info "(emacs)Sunrise/Sunset")
71 (info "(emacs)Regexp Replace")
71 (info "(emacs)International")
71 (info "(emacs)FFAP")
71 (info "(elisp)Menu Separators")
71 (info "(elisp)Instrumenting Macro Calls")
71 (info "(elisp)Group Definitions")
71 (info "(elisp)Backquote")
70 (info "(emacs-xtra)Daylight Savings")
70 (info "(emacs)Sentences")
70 (info "(emacs)PostScript Variables")
70 (info "(emacs)Misc Help")
70 (info "(emacs)Misc File Ops")
70 (info "(emacs)Merging")
70 (info "(emacs)Keyboard Macro Step-Edit")
70 (info "(emacs)Keyboard Macro Ring")
70 (info "(emacs)From Other Calendar")
70 (info "(emacs)Apropos")
70 (info "(emacs)Accumulating Text")
70 (info "(elisp)Function Debugging")
70 (info "(elisp)Frames")
70 (info "(elisp)Defining Images")
69 (info "(emacs)Two-Column")
69 (info "(emacs)Transforming File Names")
69 (info "(emacs)Tags Search")
69 (info "(emacs)Rmail Deletion")
69 (info "(emacs)Expanding Abbrevs")
69 (info "(emacs)Enabling Multibyte")
69 (info "(elisp)Rename or Copy")
69 (info "(elisp)Intro to Minibuffers")
69 (info "(elisp)Defining New Types")
69 (info "(elisp)Customizing Keywords")
68 (info "(emacs)To Other Calendar")
68 (info "(emacs)Motion in C")
68 (info "(emacs)Misc Variables")
68 (info "(emacs)Format Indentation")
68 (info "(elisp)Saving Properties")
68 (info "(elisp)Process Buffers")
68 (info "(elisp)Multiple Displays")
68 (info "(elisp)Keyboard Macros")
68 (info "(elisp)Keyboard Events")
68 (info "(elisp)Jumping")
68 (info "(elisp)Deleting Windows")
67 (info "(emacs)Faces")
67 (info "(emacs)Emacs Invocation")
67 (info "(emacs)Dired Updating")
67 (info "(emacs)Completion Commands")
67 (info "(elisp)Region Indent")
67 (info "(elisp)Point")
67 (info "(elisp)Input Methods")
67 (info "(elisp)Dotted Pair Notation")
67 (info "(elisp)Coverage Testing")
67 (info "(elisp)Byte-Code Objects")
66 (info "(emacs)Rmail Files")
66 (info "(emacs)Pages")
66 (info "(emacs)M-x")
66 (info "(emacs)Lisp Libraries")
66 (info "(emacs)LaTeX Calendar")
66 (info "(emacs)Calendar Systems")
66 (info "(elisp)Terminal Output")
66 (info "(elisp)Internals of Kill Ring")
66 (info "(elisp)Clickable Text")
65 (info "(emacs)Misc Buffer")
65 (info "(emacs)Marking Objects")
65 (info "(emacs)Mail Mode Misc")
65 (info "(emacs)Local Keymaps")
65 (info "(emacs)GTK resources")
65 (info "(emacs)Flagging Many Files")
65 (info "(emacs)DEL Does Not Delete")
65 (info "(elisp)Yank Commands")
65 (info "(elisp)Using Edebug")
65 (info "(elisp)Programmed Completion")
65 (info "(elisp)Keys in Documentation")
65 (info "(elisp)Indirect Buffers")
65 (info "(elisp)Excursions")
65 (info "(elisp)Char Classes")
64 (info "(emacs)Recursive Edit")
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29 (info "(elisp)Keyboard Menus")
29 (info "(elisp)Format Properties")
29 (info "(elisp)Event Examples")
29 (info "(elisp)Evaluation Notation")
29 (info "(elisp)Eval During Compile")
29 (info "(elisp)Button-Down Events")
29 (info "(elisp)Button Types")
28 (info "(emacs)VC Mode Line")
28 (info "(emacs)Tooltips")
28 (info "(emacs)Search")
28 (info "(emacs)Repeating")
28 (info "(emacs)Gnus Startup")
28 (info "(emacs)Fringes")
28 (info "(emacs)Dialog Boxes")
28 (info "(emacs)Building")
28 (info "(emacs)Buffers of Gnus")
28 (info "(elisp)Syntax for Strings")
28 (info "(elisp)Symbols")
28 (info "(elisp)Strings and Characters")
28 (info "(elisp)Rounding Operations")
28 (info "(elisp)Other Image Types")
28 (info "(elisp)Numbers")
28 (info "(elisp)Mode Line Format")
28 (info "(elisp)Infinite Loops")
28 (info "(elisp)Excess Close")
28 (info "(elisp)Datagrams")
28 (info "(elisp)Compilation Errors")
28 (info "(elisp)Coding Systems")
28 (info "(elisp)Char-Table Type")
28 (info "(elisp)Adjusting Point")
27 (info "(emacs-xtra)Date Display Format")
27 (info "(emacs)X Resources")
27 (info "(emacs)Replace")
27 (info "(emacs)Out of Rmail")
27 (info "(emacs)Other Calendars")
27 (info "(emacs)Non-Window Terminals")
27 (info "(emacs)Hiding Subdirectories")
27 (info "(emacs)Flymake")
27 (info "(elisp)Syntax Tables")
27 (info "(elisp)Special Events")
27 (info "(elisp)Source Breakpoints")
27 (info "(elisp)Searching and Matching")
27 (info "(elisp)Processing of Errors")
27 (info "(elisp)Non-ASCII Characters")
27 (info "(elisp)Major Modes")
27 (info "(elisp)Functions")
27 (info "(elisp)Forms")
27 (info "(elisp)Batch Mode")
26 (info "(emacs-xtra)Introduction")
26 (info "(emacs)Undisplayable Characters")
26 (info "(emacs)Slow Isearch")
26 (info "(emacs)Printing Package")
26 (info "(emacs)Mac Environment Variables")
26 (info "(emacs)Mac Directories")
26 (info "(emacs)Lossage")
26 (info "(emacs)Lisp Doc")
26 (info "(emacs)ForIndent Conv")
26 (info "(emacs)Dired Enter")
26 (info "(emacs)Breakpoints Buffer")
26 (info "(emacs)Auto Save")
26 (info "(emacs)Advanced C-x v v")
26 (info "(elisp)Stream Type")
26 (info "(elisp)Process Type")
26 (info "(elisp)Pointer Shapes")
26 (info "(elisp)Mode Help")
26 (info "(elisp)Marker Insertion Types")
26 (info "(elisp)Lambda Expressions")
26 (info "(elisp)Kill Ring Concepts")
26 (info "(elisp)Frame Parameters")
26 (info "(elisp)Create/Delete Dirs")
26 (info "(elisp)Buffer Gap")
26 (info "(elisp)Association List Type")
26 (info "(elisp)Acknowledgements")
25 (info "(emacs)Time Stamps")
25 (info "(emacs)RegRect")
25 (info "(emacs)RegNumbers")
25 (info "(emacs)Parentheses")
25 (info "(emacs)Multi-User Branching")
25 (info "(emacs)Mail Mode")
25 (info "(emacs)Key Help")
25 (info "(emacs)History References")
25 (info "(emacs)Fixit")
25 (info "(emacs)Emerge")
25 (info "(emacs)Customizing VC")
25 (info "(emacs)Comparison in Dired")
25 (info "(emacs)Combining in Emerge")
25 (info "(emacs)Asm Mode")
25 (info "(elisp)Window Frame Parameters")
25 (info "(elisp)Tips")
25 (info "(elisp)The Echo Area")
25 (info "(elisp)Reading Input")
25 (info "(elisp)Overlays")
25 (info "(elisp)Mouse Events")
25 (info "(elisp)Match Data")
25 (info "(elisp)Integer Type")
25 (info "(elisp)Display Tables")
25 (info "(elisp)Debugger")
25 (info "(elisp)Buffer-Local Variables")
24 (info "(emacs-xtra)Time Display Format")
24 (info "(emacs)Screen Garbled")
24 (info "(emacs)Rmail Summary")
24 (info "(emacs)Remote Host")
24 (info "(emacs)RegConfig")
24 (info "(emacs)Refill")
24 (info "(emacs)Multibyte Conversion")
24 (info "(emacs)Mail Methods")
24 (info "(emacs)Language Help")
24 (info "(emacs)Just Spaces")
24 (info "(emacs)Fortran Autofill")
24 (info "(emacs)Debuggers")
24 (info "(emacs)Completion Example")
24 (info "(elisp)Trapping Errors")
24 (info "(elisp)Standard Syntax Tables")
24 (info "(elisp)Motion by Indent")
24 (info "(elisp)Keymaps and Minor Modes")
24 (info "(elisp)Editing Types")
24 (info "(elisp)Buffer Text Notation")
23 (info "(emacs)Rmail Digest")
23 (info "(emacs)Memory Full")
23 (info "(emacs)Info Lookup")
23 (info "(emacs)Hungry Delete")
23 (info "(emacs)Fortran Abbrev")
23 (info "(emacs)ForIndent Num")
23 (info "(emacs)Fine Points of Emerge")
23 (info "(emacs)Filling")
23 (info "(emacs)Dired Navigation")
23 (info "(emacs)Contributing")
23 (info "(elisp)Reading a Password")
23 (info "(elisp)Read and Print")
23 (info "(elisp)Predicates on Markers")
23 (info "(elisp)Markers")
23 (info "(elisp)Lists")
23 (info "(elisp)Header Lines")
23 (info "(elisp)Global Break Condition")
23 (info "(elisp)Function Type")
23 (info "(elisp)Frame Configurations")
23 (info "(elisp)Forcing Redisplay")
23 (info "(elisp)Constant Variables")
23 (info "(elisp)Autoload Type")
23 (info "(elisp)A Sample Variable Description")
22 (info "(emacs-xtra)Advanced Calendar/Diary Usage")
22 (info "(emacs)Windows")
22 (info "(emacs)Title X")
22 (info "(emacs)RegFiles")
22 (info "(emacs)Program Indent")
22 (info "(emacs)Non-ASCII Isearch")
22 (info "(emacs)Menu Bars")
22 (info "(emacs)Introduction to VC")
22 (info "(emacs)Goto-address")
22 (info "(emacs)Global Mark Ring")
22 (info "(emacs)Find Init")
22 (info "(emacs)Buffer Menus")
22 (info "(elisp)String Type")
22 (info "(elisp)Modifying Lists")
22 (info "(elisp)Future Local Variables")
22 (info "(elisp)Function Forms")
22 (info "(elisp)Byte Packing")
22 (info "(elisp)Abbrev Mode")
21 (info "(emacs)Tool Bars")
21 (info "(emacs)Remote Repositories")
21 (info "(emacs)Graphical Kill")
21 (info "(emacs)Gnus")
21 (info "(emacs)Format Properties")
21 (info "(emacs)Fixing Case")
21 (info "(emacs)Compressed Files")
21 (info "(emacs)Clipboard")
21 (info "(emacs)Calendar Motion")
21 (info "(elisp)Vector Type")
21 (info "(elisp)Printing Notation")
21 (info "(elisp)Marker Type")
21 (info "(elisp)Macro Type")
21 (info "(elisp)Frame Type")
21 (info "(elisp)Format of Descriptions")
21 (info "(elisp)Floating Point Type")
21 (info "(elisp)Evaluation")
21 (info "(elisp)Comments")
20 (info "(emacs)Shell History")
20 (info "(emacs)Paging in Term")
20 (info "(emacs)Follow Mode")
20 (info "(emacs)Exiting Emerge")
20 (info "(emacs)Edit Keyboard Macro")
20 (info "(emacs)Drag and Drop")
20 (info "(emacs)Command Example")
20 (info "(emacs)C Modes")
20 (info "(elisp)Simple Macro")
20 (info "(elisp)Pointer Shape")
20 (info "(elisp)Motion Events")
20 (info "(elisp)Motion")
20 (info "(elisp)Menu Keymaps")
20 (info "(elisp)Information about Files")
20 (info "(elisp)Indentation")
19 (info "(emacs)Wheeled Mice")
19 (info "(emacs)Total Frustration")
19 (info "(emacs)Table Creation")
19 (info "(emacs)Switching Branches")
19 (info "(emacs)Outline Views")
19 (info "(emacs)Minibuffer Maps")
19 (info "(emacs)Highlight Isearch")
19 (info "(emacs)Help Echo")
19 (info "(emacs)Fortran Indent")
19 (info "(elisp)The Outside Context")
19 (info "(elisp)Problems with Macros")
19 (info "(elisp)Precalculated Fontification")
19 (info "(elisp)Nonlocal Exits")
19 (info "(elisp)GNU Emacs Internals")
19 (info "(elisp)Explicit Debug")
19 (info "(elisp)Defining Commands")
19 (info "(elisp)Customization")
19 (info "(elisp)Conventions")
18 (info "(emacs-xtra)Auto Reverting the Buffer Menu")
18 (info "(emacs)TeX Misc")
18 (info "(emacs)Table Misc")
18 (info "(emacs)Service")
18 (info "(emacs)Measuring Tables")
18 (info "(elisp)Some Terms")
18 (info "(elisp)Processor Run Time")
18 (info "(elisp)Checking Whether to Stop")
18 (info "(elisp)Backups and Auto-Saving")
17 (info "(emacs)Windows System Menu")
17 (info "(emacs)Which Function")
17 (info "(emacs)Text Garbled")
17 (info "(emacs)Stuck Recursive")
17 (info "(emacs)Stack Buffer")
17 (info "(emacs)Secondary VC Commands")
17 (info "(emacs)Row Commands")
17 (info "(emacs)Maintaining")
17 (info "(emacs)Documentation")
17 (info "(emacs)Comments")
17 (info "(emacs)Column Commands")
17 (info "(elisp)Terminal Input")
17 (info "(elisp)Starting Up")
17 (info "(elisp)Regular Expressions")
17 (info "(elisp)Getting Out")
17 (info "(elisp)Fringes")
17 (info "(elisp)Classifying Lists")
16 (info "(emacs)Snapshots")
16 (info "(emacs)Rmail Rot13")
16 (info "(emacs)Renaming and VC")
16 (info "(emacs)Other Mailbox Formats")
16 (info "(emacs)Glasses")
16 (info "(elisp)XPM Images")
16 (info "(elisp)Predicates for Strings")
16 (info "(elisp)Overlay Type")
16 (info "(elisp)Edebug and Macros")
16 (info "(elisp)Byte-Code Type")
16 (info "(elisp)Breaks")
15 (info "(emacs)Miscellaneous VC")
15 (info "(emacs)Mac Functions")
15 (info "(emacs)Buffer Convenience")
15 (info "(elisp)Warnings")
14 (info "(emacs)VC Status")
14 (info "(emacs)Counting Days")
14 (info "(emacs)Basic Help")
14 (info "(elisp)Window Configuration Type")
14 (info "(elisp)Hash Table Type")
14 (info "(elisp)GIF Images")
14 (info "(elisp)Frame Configuration Type")
14 (info "(elisp)Error Messages")
13 (info "(elisp)Keymap Type")
13 (info "(elisp)Autoloading")
12 (info "(emacs)Fixed Width Mode")
11 (info "(elisp)Inverse Video")
10 (info "(emacs)Highlight Changes")
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-11 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2005-08-11 17:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2005-08-11 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, rms, emacs-devel
Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:
> List of nodes:
>
> 1347 (info "(emacs)Command Index")
> ...
> 10 (info "(emacs)Highlight Changes")
oooo -- a histogram opportunity!
(sorry, couldn't resist.)
thi
________________________________
(setq ht (make-hash-table))
(while (< (point) (point-max))
(let ((n (read (current-buffer))))
(puthash n (1+ (or (gethash n ht) 0)) ht)
(forward-line 1)))
(setq al (let (acc)
(maphash (lambda (k v)
(setq acc (cons (cons k v) acc)))
ht)
acc))
(mapc (lambda (p)
(insert (format "%5d - %s\n"
(car p)
(make-string (cdr p) ?#))))
(sort al (lambda (a b)
(> (car a) (car b)))))
1347 - #
1334 - #
1185 - #
992 - #
856 - #
802 - #
645 - #
544 - #
375 - ##
362 - #
361 - ##
358 - #
348 - #
337 - #
291 - #
258 - #
252 - ##
242 - #
240 - #
236 - #
233 - #
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183 - ####
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170 - ###
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155 - #
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133 - #####
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111 - ####
110 - ########
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104 - ######
103 - #####
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98 - #######
97 - #########
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94 - ########
93 - #####
92 - #
91 - #######
90 - ##########
89 - ######
88 - ######
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85 - ##
84 - ########
83 - #####
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81 - #############
80 - ###########
79 - ####
78 - #######
77 - ##############
76 - ###########
75 - ####
74 - #######
73 - ########
72 - ####
71 - #########
70 - ##############
69 - ##########
68 - ###########
67 - ##########
66 - #########
65 - ##############
64 - #######
63 - ############
62 - ##############
61 - ##########
60 - ###############
59 - ###########
58 - ##############
57 - ##############
56 - ##############################
55 - #################
54 - ##################
53 - ############
52 - ##############
51 - ###########
50 - #################
49 - ###############
48 - ############
47 - ###############
46 - ####################
45 - #####################
44 - ##################
43 - ################
42 - #####################
41 - ########################
40 - #################
39 - ####################
38 - ###################
37 - ##########################
36 - #################
35 - ########################
34 - ##################
33 - ##############
32 - ####################
31 - ####################
30 - #########################
29 - ##############################
28 - #######################
27 - ##################
26 - #########################
25 - #########################
24 - ###################
23 - #######################
22 - ##################
21 - ##################
20 - ###############
19 - ##################
18 - #########
17 - #################
16 - ###########
15 - ####
14 - ########
13 - ##
12 - #
11 - #
10 - #
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-11 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-11 17:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-12 9:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-11 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
Thanks for finding the long nodes.
The longest nodes are not ordinary documentation;
it is ok for them to be as long as it takes:
1347 (info "(emacs)Command Index")
1334 (info "(emacs)Glossary")
1185 (info "(emacs)Acknowledgments")
992 (info "(elisp)Top")
856 (info "(emacs)Key Index")
802 (info "(emacs)Top")
645 (info "(emacs)Variable Index")
544 (info "(emacs)Manifesto")
375 (info "(emacs)GNU Free Documentation License")
375 (info "(elisp)GNU Free Documentation License")
362 (info "(elisp)GPL")
361 (info "(emacs)Copying")
358 (info "(elisp)Buffer Internals")
Since that is about internals, its readability is less important
than usual, so I won't bother with it.
I will look at splitting these now:
361 (info "(emacs)Regexps")
348 (info "(elisp)Coding Conventions")
337 (info "(emacs)Checklist")
291 (info "(elisp)Low-Level Network")
258 (info "(elisp)Writing Emacs Primitives")
252 (info "(elisp)Time Conversion")
I decided it is ok for Checklist to be long, and Writing Emacs
Primitives. They are not ordinary topics. I split the rest of those.
I may split a few more.
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-11 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-11 17:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
@ 2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-11 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
I think not only long nodes should be checked, but also the shortest
nodes too. For example, the node `(elisp)Inverse Video' has 11 lines
and documents a semi-obsolete option `inverse-video'. Its menu item
description in its upper node is too general:
* Inverse Video Specifying how the screen looks.
I think you are right. In this case, I simply deleted the node,
since the variable it documented is basically obsolete.
Could you take a look the remaining nodes that are 14 lines or less,
and see if you can find good places to merge them into?
Ignore these
14 (info "(elisp)Window Configuration Type")
14 (info "(elisp)Hash Table Type")
14 (info "(elisp)Frame Configuration Type")
13 (info "(elisp)Keymap Type")
which probably should not be combined,
and don't try desperately hard.
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-11 20:42 ` Richard M. Stallman
@ 2005-08-12 9:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-12 19:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2005-08-12 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
> I will look at splitting these now:
>
> 361 (info "(emacs)Regexps")
Please note that in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual there are already
four shorter nodes
(info "(elisp)Syntax of Regexps")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Example")
that almost completely duplicate the text in (emacs)Regexps.
I think regular expressions is a user-level feature. So these
nodes should be moved to the Emacs User Manual, and text from
(emacs)Regexps should be merged with text in these four nodes.
Then in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual only the node
(info "(elisp)Regexp Functions") would remain with a cross-reference
to the Emacs User Manual for description of regular expressions.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-12 9:59 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2005-08-12 19:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-13 6:18 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-12 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
Please note that in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual there are already
four shorter nodes
(info "(elisp)Syntax of Regexps")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Example")
that almost completely duplicate the text in (emacs)Regexps.
I know they cover the same topics. (I think there are some differences
in details of the way the text is written.)
I think that regexp syntax is so important that we should not omit it
from the Lisp manual.
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-12 19:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
@ 2005-08-13 6:18 ` Juri Linkov
2005-08-13 21:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2005-08-13 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
> Please note that in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual there are already
> four shorter nodes
>
> (info "(elisp)Syntax of Regexps")
> (info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
> (info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
> (info "(elisp)Regexp Example")
>
> that almost completely duplicate the text in (emacs)Regexps.
>
> I know they cover the same topics. (I think there are some differences
> in details of the way the text is written.)
>
> I think that regexp syntax is so important that we should not omit it
> from the Lisp manual.
Both the Emacs Manual and the Lisp Manual are distributed with Emacs,
so making a cross-reference is not a problem. Or do you mean hardcopy
versions of the Lisp Manual? In this case duplication makes sense.
Regexp syntax doesn't change too often, so syncing these manuals
between each other before the release would be enough - I see
no reason for the text about regexps to be different in both manuals.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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* Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual
2005-08-13 6:18 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2005-08-13 21:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Richard M. Stallman @ 2005-08-13 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: teirllm, emacs-devel
Both the Emacs Manual and the Lisp Manual are distributed with Emacs,
so making a cross-reference is not a problem. Or do you mean hardcopy
versions of the Lisp Manual?
Yes.
Regexp syntax doesn't change too often, so syncing these manuals
between each other before the release would be enough - I see
no reason for the text about regexps to be different in both manuals.
I am sure there are differences that are intentional. Please
drop this issue.
Are there any tasks in FOR-RELEASE that you could do? Could you
perhaps split some of the longer nodes in the manual? I would like to
split every node that documents a specific technical topic and is
longer than 200 lines. 200 lines is still too long, for such a node,
but splitting the longer nodes is at least a start.
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