From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mode_switch and LEIM Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:59:33 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87oe2yt1ii.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> <200512292313.02799.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87psnfv1g5.fsf@jurta.org> <200512302111.30952.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136003691 21905 80.91.229.2 (31 Dec 2005 04:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 31 05:34:49 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsYS8-0000w4-PR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 05:34:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsYTZ-0004hc-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:36:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EsYS4-00044m-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EsYS3-00044R-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:34:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsYS3-00044N-DT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:34:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.98] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EsYSf-0004OI-M0; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:35:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-33-35-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.33.35]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACC4CDAB; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:33:27 +0200 (EET) Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-Reply-To: <200512302111.30952.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (Paul Pogonyshev's message of "Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:11:30 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48567 Archived-At: >> The only thing I wonder about is why do you enable a LEIM input method >> while you are using a XIM input method at the same time? > > Because non-Emacs apps don't have LEIM and LEIM in Emacs is more conven= ient > that system-wide `xkb', because with `xkb' there was no way to type `M-= d' > in Russian layout, it would work as `M-=D7' instead. OK, I see now the= re is > (just checked), but still there is no way to use things like `C-x t' wh= en > using `xkb' Russian layout (`C-x =C5' instead.) OK, now I understand that you prefer LEIM due to its advantages (separate input methods for each buffer) as well as to the disadvantages of handlin= g XIM in Emacs (can't type command key sequences). Now I have the opposite question: why do you enable a XIM input method while you are using a LEIM input method at the same time. Is it because you enable a global XIM input method for all applications? Is it possibl= e to enable XIM input methods separately in each application including Emac= s instead of enabling a global XIM input method? --=20 Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/