From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: QUERY: w32 sub process implementation Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:41:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87odh1p9ed.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> References: <46C8B346.8020408@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187685689 19080 80.91.229.12 (21 Aug 2007 08:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 21 10:41:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1INPIh-0002WO-Lj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:41:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INPIh-00082i-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INPIc-00082J-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INPIb-00081v-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INPIa-00081r-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-relay.sonofon.dk ([212.88.64.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1INPIa-0003Rq-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 42350 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2007 08:41:15 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-lx.testafd.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 21 Aug 2007 08:41:15 -0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 20 Aug 2007 11\:16\:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76870 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > There are countries where lots of people use old versions of Windows > because they can copy and install those easily. So it is useful > maintain the Emacs support for those old versions. I agree that we shouldn't force anyone to upgrade to newer Windoze versions to run Emacs. However, the current implementation of sys_select is sub-optimal and doesn't support all the features of make-network-process (e.g. non-blocking connects), so fixing the code as suggested would be really good. Does W95/98/ME have a working winsock2 implementation? If so, I suggest someone try to make the changes and test them on W95/98/ME. If it works -- great. Otherwise, it should be possible to keep both the old and the new code (e.g. by making two sys_select_new and sys_select_old functions, and choose the right one at run-time.) -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk