From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Embedding Html in Lisp Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:07:10 +0900 Message-ID: <87od5rlxu9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <10403029.8884311214227267799.JavaMail.www@wwinf4622> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214250851 27554 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2008 19:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: alinsoar@voila.fr Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 23 21:54:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KAs7r-0004Ay-1v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:54:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32838 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAs71-0003OY-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAs6y-0003OT-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAs6x-0003OE-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39013 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAs6w-0003O8-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:34411) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KAs6w-0000NW-CN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAEE8002; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:53:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDF771A25C3; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:07:10 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <10403029.8884311214227267799.JavaMail.www@wwinf4622> X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under XEmacs 21.5.21 (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99806 Archived-At: A Soare writes: > With the new definition, they can be compared. Well, as TTN and TL point out, the comparison is unfavorable to HTML, which is highly unsuited to use as a programming language for a lot of reasons. In fact, IMO HTML is more comparable to prolog, as a declarative language. The thing that has always fascinated me is just how powerful the single idea that a programming language which has the same syntax for executable code and data has been. Andrew Suffield once proposed that Haskell *syntax* is Lisp without the Irritating Slew of Parentheses, and it's an attractive way to think about it. Yet it's not a great syntax for manipulation as data. I think Lisp is eternal.