From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:12:23 +0900 Message-ID: <87ocmyf6so.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <20091118191258.GA2676@muc.de> <20091119082040.GA1720@muc.de> <87aayitvoy.fsf@wanchan.jasonrumney.net> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258672368 30040 80.91.229.12 (19 Nov 2009 23:12:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 00:12:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBGB6-0007B9-Gh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:12:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBGB5-0002OW-SM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBGB1-0002Ni-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBGAx-0002JG-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37814 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBGAx-0002JD-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:31 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:59887) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBGAu-0000Cu-Dt; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 218.231.174.56.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.174.56] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1NBGAq-0004e3-Rm; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:12:25 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08572DF8C; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:12:24 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:27:06 -0500") Original-Lines: 14 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117310 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > many strings start as unibyte even though they really should start > right away as multibyte. That seems the fundamental problem here. It seems better to make unibyte strings something that can only be created with some explicit operation. -Miles -- "Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder." -- Homer Simpson