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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, per@starback.se,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Emacs for new users
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:37:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ocmrpy4w.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b501d5c0911240951q33cd90ffjc5d2505ca9f39734@mail.gmail.com> (Deniz Dogan's message of "Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:51:28 +0100")

Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com> writes:

> 2009/11/24 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>:
>> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> What I meant was that they should not be allowed to leave the
>>> minibuffer and go to another window. This is similar to how many GUI
>>> programs work.
>>
>> This is a limitation of other programs.
>
> It is nevertheless possibly confusing to newcomers when they
> accidentally exit the minibuffer. I remember getting bit by that a lot
> myself when I was new to Emacs (which is not that long ago).

There are plenty of people that consider modal dialogs a usability
problem, and are trying to reduce their use in other applications.  (And
these are applications typically aren't anywhere nearly as text-centric
as Emacs, where it's a real benefit to be able to switch windows and
manipulate text without destroying your minibuffer contents.)  I think
the disadvantages of increased modality quite clearly outweigh any
advantage.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-24 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-23 16:37 Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 16:59 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-11-23 18:47   ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 20:49     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-26 22:35       ` Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 23:12         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  6:48             ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25               ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 23:12                   ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 23:15                     ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  1:49                       ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-28  2:47                         ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 17:05 ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-24 14:10   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 14:43     ` Renaud Casenave-Péré
2009-11-24 16:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-25 21:01       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 23:02       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-24 15:51     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 16:41       ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 17:15         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:27           ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 17:35             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:51             ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-24 18:37               ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2009-11-24 18:03           ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:06             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 19:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:57             ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:05               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-25 22:27                 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:34                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-26  6:23               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 19:35   ` Les Harris
2009-11-23 20:28     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:04       ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 22:05             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 22:55         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-30 23:01           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-01  9:13           ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-01 10:13             ` Miles Bader
2010-11-13 19:14               ` separating CUA rectangles from CUA selection mode [was: Emacs for new users] Drew Adams
2009-11-23 21:16     ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-23 22:06       ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:43         ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:46           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 23:55           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-24  6:43           ` tomas

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