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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Lluís <xscript@gmx.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Locks on the Bzr repository
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:10:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87occs5cg3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86hbikxk3k.wl%lluis@fulla.xlab.taz>

Lluís writes:

 > Just to make sure I understand it. Suppose I'm working on a branch
 > with a fairly large set of changes and it has been merged back to
 > trunk. After a while a bug is found on my code, which was not
 > thoroughly tested, or a new relatively minor functionality is added
 > related to the code on my branch. Should this be committed on my
 > branch and then followed with a merge to trunk? Or should this live
 > in a completely new branch that will be merged back to trunk once
 > it's well tested?

I think it's a matter of taste.  After the first merge to trunk, you
have this history:

0 -- T1 -- ... -- Tn -- 1
 \                     /
  B1 --    ...    -- Bm

You can close the original branch, and create a new one, giving this
history:

0 -- T1 -- ... -- Tn -- 1 -- ... -- Tp -- ... -- Tq -- 2
 \                     /              \               /
  B1 --    ...    -- Bm                `---------- Fix

or you can continue on your branch


0 -- T1 -- ... -- Tn -- 1 -- ... -- Tp -- ... -- Tq -- 2
 \                     /                              /
  B1 --    ...    -- Bm -------------------------- Fix

with very similar effect (bzr knows that B1 ... Bm are already in Tq,
so it will apply effectively apply the patch (Bm -> Fix) to Tq).  The
main difference is that you could have a conflict between Fix and some
patch between 1 and Tp in the "continued feature branch" case, but you
would take the changed code into account in producing Fix for the
"make new branch for fix" case.  In the common case that nobody
touches "your" code between 1 and Tq, these are 100% equivalent.

The other issue is workflow.  If the workflow is like Launchpad or
github, where release managers pull in whole branches from
contributors, it may make sense to use the "continued feature branch"
approach.  Then both "stable" and "devel" branches can pull from your
feature branch, without polluting each other.

In a workflow like Emacs's, where contributions go to trunk and
release manager looks for patches to cherry-pick, the "branch per fix"
approach probably makes more sense.

 > Now that I think of it, I think I start to see the reason for
 > nested history and the suggestion of not using rebase. Even for the
 > smallest bug fix or feature addition, a full branch should be
 > created, and every change should be thoroughly tested in
 > there.

Thoroughly tested, yes, but remember, it is never possible to fully
test in a feature branch (unless the feature branch is the first
continuation applied to the tip of the trunk it branched from).

 > Then, trunk would be composed of just merge messages like "add
 > subsystem Y", "add feature X to subsystem Y", "fix bug N on
 > Y". This would produce a log in trunk that would very closely
 > resemble the contents of a NEWS file, but at the expense of a
 > strict branch/test/merge discipline, which is not bad per-se.

I believe that's very much the way the Bazaar developers think of it.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-24 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-19 15:40 Locks on the Bzr repository Stefan Monnier
2010-08-19 15:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 16:07   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 16:36     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 20:06       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 21:49         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  6:22           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-20  7:40             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  8:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20  9:13                 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20  9:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 11:35                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 12:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 12:56                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-20 13:29                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 14:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 10:15                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 11:39                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 12:42                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 12:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 12:52                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-20 13:33                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 14:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 15:31                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-20 13:44                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 15:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 22:41                         ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21  8:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21  9:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:30                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 10:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:47                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 17:04                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-22  7:39                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  3:15                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-21  9:38                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 10:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 10:37                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 10:56                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 12:51                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 13:02                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21 15:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  7:39                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 17:10                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21  9:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 12:31                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 13:45                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 14:56                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 17:32                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-22  7:45                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 15:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 19:10                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 18:59                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-21 19:50                               ` Leo
2010-08-21 19:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 20:17                                   ` Leo
2010-08-21 20:31                                     ` Leo
2010-08-22  1:41                                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-08-22  1:47                                     ` Leo
2010-08-22 13:47                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-22 13:53                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-22  6:52                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  7:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  8:28                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  8:57                                       ` Leo
2010-08-22 15:11                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 19:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 21:51                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-21 22:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-22  9:03                                     ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-22  9:36                                       ` Teemu Likonen
2010-08-22  9:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:25                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  4:24                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  4:54                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  7:52                                             ` Glenn Morris
2010-08-23 13:55                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24  4:32                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-24 13:30                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2010-08-24  4:32                                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  9:55                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  4:24                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  5:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  7:58                                         ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-23 10:31                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23 12:41                                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24  6:31                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 12:37                                                 ` Lluís
2010-08-24 13:05                                                   ` Lluís
2010-08-24 13:25                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-24 14:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 15:25                                                       ` Lluís
2010-08-24 14:10                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2010-08-24 15:02                                                     ` Lluís
2010-08-24 16:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24 21:27                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-24 16:42                                                   ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 17:12                                                     ` Lluís
2010-08-24 18:47                                                       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 14:05                                                 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 15:54                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 16:48                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:03                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-25 13:32                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-31 21:33                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-01  0:30                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-01  1:44                                                   ` Bernardo Barros
2010-09-01  2:36                                                     ` Miles Bader
2010-09-01  3:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01  6:49                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-01 18:17                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-01 19:10                                                     ` Bastien
2010-09-02  5:22                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-02  6:31                                                         ` Bastien
2010-09-03  1:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-09-03  8:01                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-03  9:50                                                             ` Bastien
2010-09-03 13:58                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2010-08-25 20:25                                             ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-27 15:36                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-22  7:36                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  8:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  9:21                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  9:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:14                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 11:47                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 11:13                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-22 13:13                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 17:10                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-21  2:29                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-20 16:08                 ` bzr smart server [was Re: Locks on the Bzr repository] Glenn Morris
2010-08-20 16:56                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-20 17:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 17:13                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-20 17:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 17:52                           ` bzr smart server David Kastrup
2010-08-20 17:12                   ` bzr smart server [was Re: Locks on the Bzr repository] Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-20 23:02                     ` bzr smart server Stefan Monnier
2010-08-21  8:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 13:22                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 15:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:09                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 17:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 13:46                         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-21 15:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 15:45                             ` Miles Bader
2010-08-21 15:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:16                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 17:28                                 ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-21 17:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21 17:40                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 14:00                         ` Eric Hanchrow
2010-08-21 14:06                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-21 14:24                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-21 15:12                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-21 17:12                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-22 17:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-20  4:44         ` Locks on the Bzr repository Miles Bader
2010-08-20  4:52           ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-20  6:22           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-19 16:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-19 16:54     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-19 16:12 ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 16:43   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-19 16:48     ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 17:08       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-19 17:32         ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-19 17:29   ` Jason Rumney
2010-08-19 21:42     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-20  9:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-21  9:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-19 16:26 ` Jay Belanger
2010-08-21 20:36 ` bzr send workflow (Was: Locks on the Bzr repository) Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-21 22:05   ` bzr send workflow Stefan Monnier
2010-08-21 22:48     ` Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-22  5:26     ` No ChangeLog's (was: bzr send workflow) Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22  8:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 12:29     ` bzr send workflow Andreas Schwab
2010-08-22 13:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 14:52         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-23  4:24       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-23  5:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23  5:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24  4:32           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-25 15:03     ` Andy Wingo
2010-08-25 19:18       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-26 17:11         ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-26 17:26           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-27  5:20           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-27 11:27             ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-08-22  7:56   ` bzr send workflow (Was: Locks on the Bzr repository) Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-22 11:11     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-22 13:44       ` bzr send workflow Miles Bader
2010-08-22 14:40     ` Bojan Nikolic
2010-08-23  4:14       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-23  5:33         ` Eli Zaretskii

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