From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r104691: Don't reuse previous Message-id when resending. Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:40:12 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141188 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Uday S Reddy >> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:28:52 +0100 >> >> Richard's problem was that it got partially sent to some of the >> recipients. > > No, it was that it bounced from some place on the way. Which could be > the local machine or some remote server. > > I hope that everyone who participates in this discussion knows what > the function we are discussing does. Here's the relevant parts of the > doc string of rmail-retry-failure: > > Edit a mail message which is based on the contents of the current > message. For a message rejected by the mail system, extract the > interesting headers and the body of the original message. ... The > variable `rmail-retry-ignored-headers' is a regular expression > specifying headers which should not be copied into the new message. > > And here's what the Emacs manual says about it: > > Sometimes a message does not reach its destination. Mailers usually > send the failed message back to you, enclosed in a "failure message". > The Rmail command `M-m' (`rmail-retry-failure') prepares to send the > same message a second time: it sets up a `*mail*' buffer with the same > text and header fields as before. If you type `C-c C-c' right away, > you send the message again exactly the same as the first time. > Alternatively, you can edit the text or headers and then send it. The > variable `rmail-retry-ignored-headers', in the same format as > `rmail-ignored-headers' (*note Rmail Display::), controls which headers > are stripped from the failed message when retrying it. > > So it even isn't necessarily about bounced messages, and the result > may well be a different message entirely. If stripping a header like a Message-ID is a sensible thing to do, but the user might want to unstrip it in rare cases, it might be an option to place it in a form where Gnus will automatically remove it when sending, something like X-Remove: Message-Id: Then the user can still, if he considers the removal inappropriate, edit the message accordingly and let the old header be used in that manner. -- David Kastrup