From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:07:28 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87obtl49v3.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <84boromyob.fsf@tum.de> <84ipknew07.fsf@tum.de> <87ipjzs512.fsf@gnus.org> <87wr8e8o58.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <4F256D1E.4070902@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327928867 31568 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2012 13:07:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 30 14:07:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxX-0004tW-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:07:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59169 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxW-0002qA-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxO-0002ps-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:07:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxN-0005IL-MI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:07:38 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44105) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxN-0005IG-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:07:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RrqxM-0004ou-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:07:36 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:07:36 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:07:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sxrqaSILdlTPyckE2Up9LoXOuak= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148039 Archived-At: On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:00:30 -0700 Christoph Scholtes wrote: CS> Regarding shipping Emacs with the GnuTLS binaries, I am generally not CS> opposed to doing that. But what about jpeg, gif, tiff support? I agree CS> with Juanma who IIRC said that we are providing an _Emacs binary CS> distribution_. This whole model does not fit the expectations in the CS> Windows world. In 2012, Windows users expect an "Emacs for Windows" CS> with all (binary) batteries included, an installer/uninstaller, CS> etc. We don't supply that and unless somebody steps up and does the CS> work necessary we won't. Whether politically speaking we should is CS> another question. I will work on a W32 Emacs installer shell, wrapping your latest binaries and the other libraries' binaries, with other volunteers outside the emacs-devel scope, once I have GnuTLS builds automated. At that point it will probably automatically build the other libraries as well. Thanks for your feedback. Ted