From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:41:33 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87obn3zyw2.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> <6BC9F752-C724-4C3D-B2B9-088597A57C3E@gmail.com> <878ve943r8.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343227320 11716 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2012 14:42:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Adrian Robert To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 25 16:41:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2mi-0005fo-FZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:41:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57830 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2mh-0003CO-RM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:41:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48309) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2mg-0003C4-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:41:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2mb-0008Lv-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:41:53 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2ma-0008Ln-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Su2mY-0005Wf-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:41:46 +0200 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:41:46 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:41:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3D4mqkKIwGoY7d+31/SpT8WW3C8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151884 Archived-At: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:00:45 -0500 "John Wiegley" wrote: >>>>>> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> I do think the best way forward is to merge the NS port and the Mac port in >> a way that makes the NS port developers and Mitsuharu-san willing to keep >> contributing. In other words, rather than trying to "pick A over B," let's >> find a way to have everyone work together to improve Emacs. JW> I couldn't agree more, and I think this is the best solution, if we can make JW> it work. OK, then: Mitsuharu-san, is there any way to have the NS port and your Mac port merged, preserving the desirable features of both? For instance, if GCD is available, to use GCD, but otherwise fall back to NS behavior? Are you interested in that level of integration today, or do you prefer to keep your Mac port separate and fully under your control? (sideways cc sent to Adrian Robert, one of the NS port maintainers) Ted