From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:10:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87oaqxexnu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419181867 25384 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 17:11:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk, asr@ufl.edu, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 18:11:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k21-0001Pv-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:11:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k20-0007RY-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k1w-0007RJ-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k1v-0004Q8-Qz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:10:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34341) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k1v-0004Q3-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:10:55 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41516 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2k1m-0005YP-39; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:10:46 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0FF6E0C52; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:10:45 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:47:55 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180431 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > > >> > > is painful to scroll around even locally loaded. >> > >> > Could you expand on that point? >> >> It's a very long page, with text and images interspersed all the >> time. The downloading and rendering for the images takes a while, >> changing the browser's idea of the sizes all the time (maybe Texinfo >> should declare the geometry of images in the HTML if it doesn't >> already). As a result of the large and potentially not yet completely >> rendered page (probably corresponding to hundreds of printed pages), >> scrolling (via scroll bar) is not responsive in a graphical browser. >> Stuff like incremental searches also tend to react rather sluggish. > > FWIW, I see no such sluggishness at that page, using Google Chrome. > The page loaded seemingly instantaneously, and both scroll-bar > scrolling and incremental search (C-f in Chrome) also seem > instantaneous. > > Am I missing something? Did you means something different from this? Firefox here. -- David Kastrup