From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs release and bundling GNU Elpa Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87oak8at0w.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434972073 8278 80.91.229.3 (22 Jun 2015 11:21:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 22 13:21:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zml-0004Mp-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:21:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmj-0002y9-9u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:21:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51774) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmc-0002y4-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmY-0004bX-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:20:57 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:34061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmY-0004Xy-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:20:54 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmS-0008B4-Fl; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:48 +0100 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6zmS-0000Xw-KV; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:45:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187371 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > At step 3, we'd have the following novelties: > - the end user has to checkout both emacs.git and elpa.git before she > can build Emacs (I suspect there will be some resistance, here). > - packages in emacs/lisp can start to depend on packages from elpa.git. > - we could even include preload some elpa.git packages (i.e. from loadup.el). > > I'm not exactly sure we'll ever get to step 3. Would it not be possible to put elpa.get into emacs.git as some kind of subtree? The reason I ask, is that I try to keep Emacs running somewhere close to trunk for my daily emacs, but I find that I get mysterious errors in unrelated packages. These are normally solved by deleting my .emacs.d/elpa directory and starting from fresh (my config, like many I am sure, makes this easy). It would be nice if running make clean on emacs.git checkout would also do a make clean on its related elpa.git. Just a thought. Phil