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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Nicolas Richard <nrichard@ulb.ac.be>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Debugging Emacs
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 09:51:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oae27fix.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h9jxf9l2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:55:53 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Nicolas Richard <nrichard@ulb.ac.be>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:33:00 +0100
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes:
>> > Now, if we had a command, say `break', implemented in C, then added a
>> > "breakpoint Fbreak" into .gdbinit, then all of this would happen
>> > automatically. Under GDB, then "M-x break" or (break) Emacs would halt.
>> > Outside M-x break would do nothing.
>> 
>> FWIW I use "killall -TSTP emacs", at which point gdb kicks in. (IIUC.)
>
> This was in etc/DEBUG, of course.

Actually, it wasn't!

etc/DEBUG

has a section called "Getting Control to the Debugger". The section
BEFORE that mentions

kill -TSTP PID

Getting the PID of emacs is somewhat painful because I normally run two.
And three when debugging. It didn't occur to me that I could safely run
killall -TSTP emacs without trashing my other Emacs'

Again, this all sounds small, but getting to the debug "Hello World"
needs to be as simple as possible.

> Anyway, I added a "Preliminaries" section to etc/DEBUG, based on
> Phillip's text, please take a look.


It's good. Slightly more detail that I would have added (less is more in
a brief tutorial).

I would put back my short "run through". Also, the section on "pp" needs
to mention that this prints to standard out (this is true right?). I
spend a long time trying to get "pp" to work and failing because I
expected the output to appear in the GDB window (like "print" does).

Probably, etc/DEBUG needs to be replaced with a section in the elisp
manual. Which probably needs to be renamed (Programming Emacs Manual?)
-- I noticed the section on modules going in the other day which isn't
very lispy!

Phil





  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-07  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-27 17:23 Debugging Emacs Phillip Lord
2015-11-27 17:48 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-27 21:53   ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-28  7:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 18:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 22:05   ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-28  7:56     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 19:39       ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-28 20:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 21:35           ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-29 18:13             ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-29 19:25               ` John Wiegley
2015-11-29 21:26                 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-29 19:46               ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-30 13:33             ` Nicolas Richard
2015-12-05 10:55               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07  9:51                 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2015-12-07 16:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-07 18:18                     ` Stephen Leake
2015-12-07 18:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 22:36                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11  7:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-11 15:47                         ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-28  8:41     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-28  9:47       ` Eli Zaretskii

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