Hi, I am an Emacs user as well, and I so much disagree with you. Stefan Reichör writes: > As I user I am not happy with that direction. > Let me try to explain it. > I use Emacs since about 20 years. I use it daily and it is my primary > interface to computer related tasks. For sure I can adopt to what ever > direction emacs goes. 17 year here, since ‘99. I use Emacs for nearly everything as well. > I use a hand crafted .emacs and I am used to install emacs packes > manually to a site-lisp folders. Me, too, and I hated it. It was *SO* much work to keep track of everything I installed this way; for bigger packages I even had to change the load path to get it installed properly. Nowadays I just hit „install“ - done. > With GNU ELPA I have to install the package first and get rid of it if I > don't like it. That’s easier now as well. Just `rm -rf` the sub-directory in the elpa directory and be done with it. Try to remove e.g. org-mode from the Emacs distribution. > My main concern with GNU ELPA is that I have to install a lot of extra > packages manually using the package manager. When they are built-in they > are just there. That’s exactly what I like about ELPA. I decide what I’d like to have installed, and not some maintainer. For example I would never install tramp, this bugged piece of software caused me so much trouble (for example, `/dev/null` gets overwritten everytime I use tramp and I have to do a `mknod` everytime to re-create it). Moving more things to ELPA means more control for me, and it also means faster bugfixes for packages I use. I don’t have to wait for a new Emacs release to get a bugfix for e.g. org-mode, but I can install a new version as soon as it has been released just by hitting enter on the install button. I totally like the way of moving things to ELPA. Best regards, -- Christian Kruse https://wwwtech.de/about