From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:57:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87o9iajd1n.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87lgdpphmm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vacqcy89.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524488134 9868 195.159.176.226 (23 Apr 2018 12:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:55:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Joshua Branson , Bozhidar Batsov , emacs-devel To: Roland Winkler Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 14:55:29 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb0D-0002T3-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:55:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb2J-0002DP-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:57:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb2B-0002Cw-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb2A-0008JM-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:51856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb26-0008E0-7V; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:57:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+g0hM+O1uV8a13ZLsc0hQWch+G+DTkaH2ZF7OOp5GEk=; b=R2s3+AWx1WkqG3919fdiSJ6il 7Obkyr3Y/VjgDhB85wCFgtmd91IsQWIl5up7gsJ4Y0L3H1Voogxf4rELkGh6hPSp+wns3eBVPr+4t eF3iY17eW/FYpviJdJ19IDmj+hO4wxWpw0KL3e4IW6lwQjt+m89GBKuKrVcP1AYs4+vm9ic2Mnse1 Nd7KbzAy3qFlzSmMwsE6rH7t5m7magkvROvuaf9WuS/Cgf6qV3G3vP1Mez6d8sJeYe3Zv7gFlOixG oej7MRuG4KT/KygNiGN4FUQUMl0YC8Xh8JbComPLYqWKsq6cYA/7vU9dfclJ/Ec/p+sE1HtGdy5i7 b73CHKW4g==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:52067 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fAb24-003AGD-EE; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:57:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87vacqcy89.fsf@gnu.org> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:23:34 -0500") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224804 Archived-At: Roland Winkler writes: > On Sun, Apr 15 2018, John Wiegley wrote: >>>>>>> "BB" == Bozhidar Batsov writes: >> >> BB> You can add my voice to "I'd rather just have in ELPA (and we >> BB> should be moving more and more packages there). >> >> Same here. I really don't want to see BBDB moved into core. I do want >> ELPA packages to become more "first class" than they are now, so that >> the desire to add such packages to core would no longer have the same >> appeal. > > A simple scheme could be a policy for naming development and release > branches of packages in the ELPA git repository (beyond the current > "externals" branches for individual ELPA packages), combined with tools > that allow one to access one or the other version of a package. > > Or yet something different. I think this going to be scary because packages are distributed across multiple branches, so names would end up getting namespaced. I think that MELPA has it right here -- packages should be in different repos, master is trunk, last tag is release. This could be expanded to support multiple releases if package.el supported multiple versions of Emacs. Phil