From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: We should decouple focus and frame switching Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:34:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87o9gfqrzu.fsf@web.de> References: <6d1bc582-29be-5df7-56b1-e82305ee477f@dancol.org> <726a268360567d598996f0080b71c0f8.squirrel@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528860826 10181 195.159.176.226 (13 Jun 2018 03:33:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 03:33:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers To: dancol@dancol.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 13 05:33:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSwXT-0002WZ-UH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:33:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59622 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSwZZ-000622-GO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34463) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSwYe-00060z-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSwYZ-00072M-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:34:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:48363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSwYZ-00071b-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:34:47 -0400 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.110.196.170]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlWKh-1g3w461hWZ-00bHZc; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:34:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <726a268360567d598996f0080b71c0f8.squirrel@dancol.org> (dancol@dancol.org's message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:28:15 -0700") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cj/xQt3Dcj7a+AATTpBqNO50zCjgPGm+sZ5QIj0Gi3N79TbNQwI f7IwwwTr8V7g3Kyx8jp3mlEYVTOnrmjRSaK/j2uzHvRK1Hz1lShfsN0Rd8Z+i3h8DgSSyjH FgoJDReF9vICZLtzwAf+72xVlIKlDn9/euik36KwMlh15DGh36htFpBNJGvTob4wF++zuDt 94XJF1+yiMmxHu/ESfWdQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:R7bEBhxH3ME=:UBuAsiTIWTvTMRlb7yVaOz IBWY++l7teC92j7fUO+DmBtbsWsl8lT4+7S53BthR0K76Ut6F1VNjQeXq8VICX3r96dmzpOao vV5nMoBa4UMLlZyy/6nGuEVA6BiaJ76HFboNKOgf9xkWSX4RJLc/GaMXgljZOSbgoyxFYW8OB apewIjevcJidd+gjcXOY8b/RpMqJ1A0oCj4jOAFOrhv+jEsn+l+szP3VP4/UvCj+9Wkw5jOuv IMdsDxih/v4gn9GIg7Owzl9dCrFLb4pPVkm3bPb+eerXJOoCWk+XUZqx+veTv8tHOsPT4M29T 0fUrDFu4ac7C6s1VQxTs+41B9/eS4ckpK68g+KmK4SUhzFm3UJhOpOoll62x2Ief1vH1tUoVu eUKtxrN+h39ezoTOBmaN9k6lU2B72Whinhe8osC+G6sOx1phIWGeCj0B8dYLdeVMUSyMooNP/ Hrbt3oZyS/D7ctQ1nQ2Hs941AwAjIu5MMMY42XgfOirW1IXDjCUa7lpvaFia+u/7bNFi/YA59 glbe3WVENAyTsZUURtbOZBu7d10GbrKxm9l0Ft4dJF5xvC/eCenk7Bi+MHAKyS1jdQSs1Lw8c skOziRmWs2wWGFk8unQmlhS7/v2CgInRIOY45rArYHdvAvM8GGlNKswqEbaMkBMFTJR4FIo6a JRq7iMXInrQ/A3T2WJi8aVwy0bCT9xEm9fajBP5yUCrDU8VDbx3YMhu+yaoPgf68J74ihDz7q 2g6I5/nZ2v8SXpLLlNM5zVA8RRhIsGVoAT0s0tqYwFoMTaAWlP8G1Uhjkx+I7vXYPyHW3ZJV X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226276 Archived-At: dancol@dancol.org writes: > > Why might we not want this? > > First of all, I'm worried about backward compatibility with existing > packages that rely on the current strange behavior of focus-in and > focus-out. FWIW, whenever I quit an Ediff session, I get now with master | Quit this Ediff session? (y or n) y | set-frame-parameter: Wrong type argument: frame-live-p, # Michael.