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From: "Garreau\, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why is there no `until' in elisp?
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:31:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9btr8m2.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877eihbt1y.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:16:57 -0700")

On 2018-10-16 at 12:16, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> "Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:
>> [0] such as: (defmacro until (test &rest body) (declare (indent 1))
>> `(while (not ,test) ,@body))
>
> I have nothing to do with this, but my feeling is that Lisp developers
> in general drag their feet about adding trivial/obvious constructs to
> the standard library.

Why?  If this is because of the triviality of reimplementing, wouldn’t
they do, once they want to use it in contributing emacs (I keep seeing
many (while (not …) …))?  or do they restrain themselves for some
rational/useful reason I still ignore?

The “it’s one macro more to learn fully the language” doesn’t stand that
much (especially about elisp) to me as it is easy to read source code,
easy to find definitions, and “unless” is as much an english word as
“while” (maybe even more widespread, outside of programming).



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-16 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-16 17:42 Why is there no `until' in elisp? Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-16 19:16 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-10-16 19:31   ` Garreau, Alexandre [this message]
2018-10-16 20:23     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-10-16 23:00       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-19 15:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-16 21:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-17  0:12   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17  2:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-17  9:14       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 15:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-17 16:51           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-19 15:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-19 18:08       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17  8:04   ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-17  9:23     ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17  9:46       ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-17 11:06         ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 17:50         ` Paul Eggert
2018-10-17 21:15           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 21:35             ` Paul Eggert
2018-10-17 21:49               ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 22:33                 ` Paul Eggert
2018-10-17 22:54                   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 12:41     ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-10-17 15:03     ` Stefan Monnier

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