From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 19:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8qujs0p.fsf@randomsample> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <547c9116-c1c3-8563-4aee-c62aa2302861@yandex.ru> <838shybfdo.fsf@gnu.org> <3f79ff6e-2471-fa6d-08ff-682afd504eca@yandex.ru> <83v9l29yz3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="89951"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 19:34:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYCJm-000NI1-NJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:34:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42290 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYCJl-00016U-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYCJ6-0000Sa-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: from zplane.randomsample.de ([2a03:4000:42:1a1:9400:eeff:feb4:c8a0]:41320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYCJ4-0001jd-TO; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:33:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tzcQjdVAgopJYV1M3qBEtTRf1+9cfGFjmguOPC8rLbM=; b=Tb5JxN3AzcW6W9ZqGlr2ekPvz 4ZjmMViAO27fDvbZJKdd5ddjgn4wlEDDS3UH/5EW4L6fIjtpP8VUVVMU06JLH8N5CfY4LlTYi86+k D/iPpd5cWv9HWDIQTvFjEKzmEUe36niRiCmd1tL4/jlKzmiRvqQ3p9hhY8cOkxf3JBmlVzxbj55X0 N5gBaqalx+UaeqoHYkvCjen74XpilPLsjQml1V1skTwQ5+xsNFmQsHGetpBro0LyZ5mh4kqPx0Uky g8Fp6enr82eL00mOZEZgfOEZuFPnPLmhZ0/hZgQSbd+sRbse87yQITJ35WaejvhsxfI40etGvVpxo za/a4+AvQ==; Original-Received: from ip5f5abaee.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([95.90.186.238] helo=void) by zplane.randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYCIw-0001QA-KQ; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:33:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83v9l29yz3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 11 May 2020 20:13:20 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a03:4000:42:1a1:9400:eeff:feb4:c8a0; envelope-from=deng@randomsample.de; helo=zplane.randomsample.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/11 13:33:29 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249841 Archived-At: >> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 19:56:59 +0300 > >> >> On 11.05.2020 19:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Why do we need to bless any package? I can understand why the package >> > developers would want to be blessed, but why do_we_ want to do so? >> >> Because we can tell the users on our home page to: >> >> 1. Install Emacs, >> >> 2. If you [do IDE stuff with it], install packages b and c. >> >> 3. Be productive. >> >> or >> >> 4. [do some creative stuff with it] >> >> 5. Install packages d and e. >> >> 6. Be happy and create. > > We can say the same without having the packages in ELPA, we just need > to tell them in addition to set up package.el for MELPA. No, we cannot do that. MELPA contains packages promoting non-free software and services, so at least Richard would surely veto that. -David