From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:05:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87o8l51mh3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87o8ls1vvq.fsf@posteo.net> <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87lfgahtcw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39918"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 06:06:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY3K-000AHn-RM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:06:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY3J-0002Ex-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:06:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46182) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY2V-0001h5-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:43672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY2T-0001AJ-0X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:05:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=yufOVt6FiGyx4H5+Z+YAaz833eK26bgUotBjXQZAIvU=; b=lImQC90V0LKwat3cjm5WoGGx8k ecPC4pV22o7cxGuzwJTy0m4HJ6HfRaT+OtmF7S6N5Uatqv5MjvUguqgS/pjWhbEeBRPkfH+oJplrn nImSLp8juj3t4bG8tROznOTEsPSgp/IS/l3hHcaYHWyyirvZh8DGHY2HFLpGq8IEbe14=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY2L-0004aU-Im; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:05:19 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX4mS/9qC/cZTXE OjnNjDGaajBCMTHJjTJrTDH8ukb7zmv8xFb23Y3///8dEh2UAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+QKDgMqCmaWB8kAAAFJSURBVDjLvZM/T4QwGIdbjIlj30vJiS7YjyBfQAYS3e4SazpqornVG/wz OmhkZXDQmxwvTDdSvoHxQ0lBaAslRgffjT78nr59KQhVBWYRpAt6NQo6hseItod44oWM4Qa0AcLY Yci2WNQC0sY9FHoeQt4RVwAPdtjmlzUw+1cPd8m9M7HzLFJRgy5zzB8JTW4fUk5NVeXw51wIcROT uAKmSPhXqbiGhM9Vgmiw2H3ygfLT5uR6nZ5PZ9X6SV6ArZpewJJwXAayUEATsnhZ+jOQq/LdVsEZ hyCXZb6X9bqiMWRyvd7kYKtUZSCL/Q3YB/wuGdQADz9spiKDGb4Wb8Wqd8BG9PlR1ioYKecNAZfq 58R/7PFbFakS5nUwgLrU2Kly/1F/BM6OEbE3p3qICKx227cQiXqmFnhR6Fgegs6LJtGBe4hj33B0 7F+qim5HHhx/gQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMC0xNFQwMzo0MjoxMCswMDowMP8g FZ8AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTAtMTRUMDM6NDI6MTArMDA6MDCOfa0jAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: B. Fleischmann's _Welcome Tourist (1)_: "The Blessed" In-Reply-To: <87lfgahtcw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:00:51 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257607 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > I tried this, and the mode-line looks much nicer indeed, > but this improvement is unusable because the mode-line jumps > left and right when the buffer is saved, the cursor is moved, etc. Do you use a variable-pitch font that has different widths for the digits? I didn't think that would be an issue in practice. What font do you use? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no