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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261872 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, AFAICT this all started from: > > (not (null (cdr deleted))) would avoid traversing the entire list, > but it wouldn't be easier to read. > > which doesn't actually demonstrate a need for "speed optimisation", but > rather a need to avoid extra work (which could lead to real performance > problems when the list is long), so the ELisp implementation seems to > fit the bill ("avoid traversing the entire list" while being "easier to > read"). Well, it started from (< (length list) ...), and the not-null-cdr was mooted as a faster, but less readable solution. A Lisp function would be slower (in many cases), but more readable. I'm proposing a solution that's faster, and more readable. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no