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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266527 Archived-At: Hello, On Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 05:27PM +01, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> In the transition period, 'M-o' is bound to a command that pops up a >> buffer that explains the sitch, and what to do to recover the old action >> in the test period. (And where to complain; i.e. here.) > > The test period is now over, so we should now discuss whether to make > the change permanent, and if so, whether we should bind any of the > affected commands to something else. There was previously some suggestion to reserve M-o as a prefix map for third-party packages like Magit, to avoid a situation like the recent one with C-x g. It occurs to me that in that case, Emacs could still bind a few keys under the prefix, like M-o M-o, for core functionality, but leave the rest open. Is there still an appetite for something like that? -- Sean Whitton