From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Swedish calendar localization in official release (sv-kalender.el)? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271147 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * 2021-07-06 11:38:49+0200, Arthur Miller wrote: > Teemu Likonen writes: >> For calendar holidays I think an Elpa repository is the best platform >> because calendars need to be checked (and possibly updated) yearly >> about. New national conventions can be published any time. That is >> different from Emacs release cycle. > > Doesn't calculations suffice? What has to be updated yearly? Anything. Calendar holidays are politics. For example, in Finland there appeared "Jean Sibeliuksen p=E4iv=E4" (for the composer Jean Sibelius) in 2011. "Suomen luonnon p=E4iv=E4" appeared in 2020. "Lapsen oikeuksien p=E4i= v=E4" was a normal holiday before but since 2020 it is recommended to raise the Finnish national flag too. These kind of things can happen any time. My "yearly" was only an approximation because I think new national calendars are published yearly. For Emacs calendar maintainers it is good idea to check (and possibly update) their calendar code at least yearly. Not to forget that the calendar cycle can be different in some countries or cultures. All this says that it is best to publish national and other cultural calendars separately from Emacs releases. =2D-=20 /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. https://www.iki.fi/tlikonen/ // OpenPGP: 4E1055DC84E9DFF613D78557719D69D324539450 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIYEARYIAC4WIQTJW2wqtelxC1gHdbitnXWr7pTCcwUCYOQwwhAcdGxpa29uZW5A aWtpLmZpAAoJEK2ddavulMJzUNYBAKABIDBuErytfv3FCKRmvnDQK6EHrR7noWsU 629ElD9VAQD0VFKMsnS2EKLpYCa/6FW96oGimpjR0HsWsl4AoQcfAg== =PrX2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--