From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion for improving ergonomics of repeat-maps: define-repeat-map Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:33:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87o885m3c4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <874katproz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7etsjxx.fsf@gnus.org> <446cdb8d-7075-4942-bfbe-74653dd32a03@www.fastmail.com> <875yudqjwi.fsf@gnus.org> <878rz9gnxw.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87fsthnmpv.fsf@gnus.org> <87v92df2om.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2409"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 13:34:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXMF3-0000NJ-0I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:34:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55680 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXMF1-0000Ox-QT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37830) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXMEE-0007W9-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:33:54 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:47520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXMED-0000aO-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:33:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cdjGRi250idT763OPGjkLVIJAZflgR0jD8+0tyxcZyc=; b=EXm9jYbD4T8SEd/ODnyWC9vMjc g6yqqOhyoH4rMIvCuVM8lKL8gq+/xcvKIZieCRBe9cl/jirmx/sU65HiBGTMSVdCbfK2vh3xOLbuv nwQxbBZh5edkwnNaGNXkreD0o4PIwuzkbhFY33FOAzZN+Imlunmh7+DX4bHrqkrzLJNA=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXME7-0002DC-Gt; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:33:49 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEUNCgkvLCpQTUxx bm2Oi4oiHh3JxsViX12sqahBQD5BPTyCfnyCgH7////cAm+xAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+UKBAsgD0bhebUAAAFrSURBVDjLjdIxT8JAFAfwttg46ND/1UtRF65YZcQeBBIXKRCQiZI06KiL jhYGjHExwTC4iN9AEz8Am6uTX8ubiPQeCW/r++Xa/3tXw9igTLEGXFmgwW81yL7N3BsaPDlbc2Ia 0d+Af0pDHJfXAO7J/hVosEZAhZrQ7QDuNRFWyDn4lIDUfRS87mhgCowmIq8HNsGZ5LWFDgHgs/C4 r6VdACdP4d55FgZhDM87RZqFQ8nBvRZWFmzz2Cip+eDW/Bc7Mf8lgt0N0xjD6KGsHpbDxODWXTgG WLPbNpEskyVxYnZ/iypw51u9anUjr5OiAIvq2c3n2mcVgeFFMbusnDiSAYY/79nJLcHkF1iKLNjT iVSp5lxbYj4UasKDQAOrofrss6pfYXNfyUdBh1KqAARcPqt+7Ohg3QJ80NfBcAN1IwZVgoPs21X0 SVD/CQ3b0ndI2On2aNjqrTmxO2M0WK3ojQRjXKP7hukYG9QfraA5OGr6jiQAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6 Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTAtMDRUMTE6MzI6MTUrMDA6MDDp/tQFAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAy MDIxLTEwLTA0VDExOjMyOjE1KzAwOjAwmKNsuQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Zola Jesus's _Live at Roadburn_: "Witness" In-Reply-To: <87v92df2om.fsf@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2021 06:29:45 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276172 Archived-At: Adam Porter writes: > To be honest, I was surprised to see defvar-keymap as a separate macro. > I was expecting, e.g. define-keymap to be used inside a defvar, > something like: > > (defvar foo-map > (define-keymap ...) > "Docstring for foo-map.") > > Not to complain about having the macro, of course. :) It was a late addition. I started converting a couple keymaps to check the ergonomics, and it became clear that >90% of the usages would look just like that, so I added the macro version. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no