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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288160 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > That means all users of `register-device-function-key` need to write > their code under the assumption that the actual "function key" (I'd > call it a "prefix event" rather than a "function key") is not the one > they asked for but the one returned, which ends up being the same as > dynamically-generated "function keys". > > It makes it rather inconvenient to use for the end user who wants to > > (define-key map [foot-pedal ?b] 'foo) > > and has to do > > (define-key map (vector (register-device-function-key ) ?b) 'foo) > > instead. > > I hope we will settle over time on some naming convention so that > conflicting names almost never happen and `register-device-function-key` > can presume the caller knows what it does, so instead of returning the > previously chosen name, it doesn't return anything and overrides the old > name instead. Or alternatively we could allow the function key/prefix event to be something other than a symbol: (define-key map ["Lars' foot pedal" ?b) #'foo) would make events coming from the device named "Lars' foot pedal" go to "foo", and (define-key map [[eraser] mouse-1] #'artist-erase-drag) would make events coming from an eraser run "artist-erase-drag". But I'm not sure how much work that would be. I think we will new syntax for that in `kbd', at the very least.