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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289469 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > But that can be different (even VERY different) from what _should_ be > on the glass. We cannot rely on the current matrix for making such > decisions. Yes, but the problem here is that we cannot copy what already _is_ on the glass if there is a stipple. So the contents of the desired matrix are irrelevant for our purposes.