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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291066 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: >> This is all part of the aims and process. However, the first step is to >> develop a robust elisp based parser. This helps to ensure the org syntax >> is consistent and helps identifies ambiguities which need to be fixed as >> well as provides a reference implementation which developers can use to > > It is not the goal of Emacs to support tyrant devices such as the iPhone > running proprietary operating systems such as iOS. > > If people are going to refactor Org mode, I hope they will not do it > with support for iPhones in mind. I am not sure why you only picked up iPhones from the list suggested by David. The aim is not supporting iPhones. The aim is supporting other GNU and Free Software projects that are making use of Org, which implies conservative approach to breaking changes, especially in syntax. Best, Ihor