From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:46:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87o7yuwhif.fsf@randomsample> References: <87bkv527p5.fsf@gmail.com> <835yld93w7.fsf@gnu.org> <877d5t0yrn.fsf@gmail.com> <87r140yuof.fsf@gmail.com> <875yl9e7zm.fsf@gmail.com> <83czfh12kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjhghu2.fsf@localhost> <835yl910gp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wndndbhq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkuzznws.fsf@gnu.org> <877d5mqmkh.fsf@localhost> <83y1y2utnd.fsf@gnu.org> <87r13up587.fsf@localhost> <83o7yyur0l.fsf@gnu.org> <87leu2p3nu.fsf@localhost> <83leu2uewn.fsf@gnu.org> <87r13qv701.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , theophilusx@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 09:03:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1N42-0006sQ-FX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 09:03:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37634 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1N40-0001td-TE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 03:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1Mo9-0001hN-32 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 02:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from zplane.randomsample.de ([192.145.45.252]:46278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1Mo6-0007Rh-SJ; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 02:47:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=V4OaBay1sAFVbLX7DldcNmXrKGKyTebheHtfjHCm5Lg=; b=ILQ+yr3Xr7k2RjOx3uNPQ+ePnG U4Q9sB4xXF7Ja4kh60g6fSCDZnycaVW7O9KjG5kPn/GXMqqXy8F02A7ihTpjoZwvnVT8gwejal2YZ o93jl5GFxGG9k1k39YW4y3aJ85tkmqYwjqdOq9SmTCeGcbysyoHlIovO5wOXhuOEMjCt4wQ0g8Qi5 4+HiNM3VBWb+m4g9YicFJO5iKJMyy06YVTgcuP1z6wVnlrx1hiyQnOagFKYt1vzWnjBQl3BmfCVej G0z2dc6SH94H2ElTJQLMU8S7H3MLx/nETx4/iXrXEzEydUPx+/JEAuUqo4kYc39rw53K5OA7Ha6S6 XVEUE0Mw==; Original-Received: from ip5f5abad6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([95.90.186.214] helo=void) by zplane.randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1o1Mnm-003vvW-34; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:46:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r13qv701.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:19:10 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.145.45.252; envelope-from=deng@randomsample.de; helo=zplane.randomsample.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291193 Archived-At: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> We rarely have bugs related to manual builds. I recall two in many >>> years. >>> >>> Usually documentation is built automatically on ELPA and by our >>> publishing scripts on orgmode.org. >> >> So basically no one builds Org, including the manual, on their own >> system? Even not the Org developers? > > Org releases are not frequent for most users and occasional build time > should not matter too much. Nobody complained on the list. Well, for the record, I did complain, but that was over 11 years ago. :-) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-12/msg01356.html I still think Org is way too slow to be a viable documentation system for a project like Emacs. -David