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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293971 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Meh. C-with-macros as used all over Emacs is complex as well, and also > requires learning. I=CA=BCm neither a C++ fanboy nor an expert in "modern" > C++, but if it can be used to reduce complexity I=CA=BCm all for it. GDB > seems to have had some success with it. FWIW, I object to requiring C++ for the build, simply because it's not a language I know very well. But there is nothing wrong with implementing a GUI backend in C++: we already require non-C languages for both the Nextstep and Haiku window systems. > I can=CA=BCt think of a major platform for Emacs which doesn=CA=BCt have = a C++ > compiler (MS-DOS maybe?) DJGPP supports C++, but I have no idea if its C++ library is unexec-ready (the MS-DOS build only supports unexec.)