From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 21:34:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87o7w6pznw.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87bks77azu.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgfr1nnh.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7w6oqbo.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:kFnzHHnT5nlu8NwGBrqdhhvyjK4= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 26 21:34:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRf6Y-0008tU-05 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 21:34:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53988 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRf6W-0007Zk-Io for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRf60-0006pJ-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:54318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRf5y-0006nV-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRf5u-00081F-HC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 21:34:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294160 Archived-At: KΓ©vin Le Gouguec wrote: > *shrug* I don't live in a TTY, so I don't have an informed > opinion on what the most useful representation would be. > Off the top of my head, I see Here in tty land sayings are you are correct in everything you say, you could have added that the font color - not an Emacs face it seems - it is the ANSI Bright Yellow color (\u001b[33;1m) - this makes the char code stick out so they are what you notice first and most while it should be the other way around. > a minimalist approach: add a new 'char method that lets > you pick your favourite placeholder character for the > 'no-font group, +1 (minimalist?) When you stay with point on the char in the echo area it would say, for πŸ˜€ for example, indeed, "grinning face". > * a maximalist approach: embark on a quest to add legible > and informative display methods [...] (setq expand-glyphless-method nil) Show πŸ˜€ as πŸ˜€. (default; same as now) (setq expand-glyphless-method #xfffd) Show πŸ˜€ as οΏ½. (setq expand-glyphless-method 'codepoint) Show πŸ˜€ as \U01F600. (setq expand-glyphless-method 'human) Show πŸ˜€ as [grinning-face]. [smiling-face-saying-goodbye] -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal