From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 01:39:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87o7vy1x74.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87edx28cl1.fsf@disroot.org> <83y1v7w6eu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20684"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:vjhZAXMHbUITYP+H3uswFzMaCfY= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 02 01:41:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtoD-00057S-Is for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 01:41:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45936 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtoC-00054j-CF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtmc-0004DR-Gz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:32982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtma-0005v2-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtmY-0003JQ-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 01:39:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294509 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: >> I don't understand why you want to use such a complicated >> mechanism, when a much simpler and better one is available. > > I don't see how it could be simpler than using a Linux > console, since that is as simple as could be. I have 8 of > them, and to use one, I just type the character > that switches. > > When you claim it is simpler, that has to be > a misundersanding. Actually it is too simple, for example it doesn't support scrolling which is why people use tmux on top of it. But people do that in xterm as well, maybe for other reasons tho. (?) >> Is there a reason why you >> cannot (or do not want to?) use fbterm? > > 1. It will be different > 2. I don't have any idea how to use fbterm. > 3. I odn't know what new inconveniences it would cause. Yes. > I would like Emacs to handle nondisplayable characters on > Linux consoles the way it did a year ago. I am sure that > can't be hard. Try this, it's not that bad: (set-char-table-extra-slot glyphless-char-display 0 "%") -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal