From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter introduction documentation Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:20:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87o7royd9e.fsf@posteo.net> References: <83edszjslp.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu1vxs3a.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <831qozjob7.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz8jxoat.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83wn6ri7pn.fsf@gnu.org> <5e0a3185-de82-b339-0fa2-956779e63d6f@cornell.edu> <868rj6vfep.fsf@gmail.com> <4895891b-e5ea-9c37-f51b-df2e479ee758@yandex.ru> <83y1qt11xq.fsf@gnu.org> <9eb013da-d0fc-8e17-c6e3-1e8f913aebfa@yandex.ru> <83pmc50xxc.fsf@gnu.org> <71cfe4e8-3bb8-b0a6-9be5-8c0a6d92cfab@yandex.ru> <83h6xg29z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn6cyey5.fsf@posteo.net> <837cyc22dz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15725"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 18:21:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pADdT-0003mZ-DK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:21:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADd3-0001Dy-08; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:20:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADcw-0001Di-16 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:20:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADct-0006W4-K7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:20:33 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1171E2401DD for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:20:26 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1672161627; bh=ZP+dE6aGcGpN+dCD0UYYWIDf0P0rKVVTiWUmbwCXsMQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Zn4tfd4tqVDOKwNIU+/uCsqgFC+miBn350jxGGUlzjzPZNj9A3NQ6havTkFZYlNG1 gf1v6eXs5JWq2UK1gj5QngCRL8SbKUf5CnMGlunAoq+QqhLw7/a3q12pCFg/q9LaT0 P2crXmzBf/QcEaYUBPYM35lMGxfOL5EFMD19zL2PBdahETchENQNGNW7ob/Fo5U5GO WjZL0mWgwkzLyHoRASt6cIYnssxd9dZ4k9i05+v5lVa+9npLXwbe56WH8vrt7Ju3PQ eksKcuD/hUjasOk10TLbVw1ykPkKu/uE1F6tYlv/xNWtzeOaWTv8830gPnKUg3MsqY JkqNrKHCwgKGA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NhLyL1QPKz9rxK; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:20:23 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <837cyc22dz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 27 Dec 2022 19:16:24 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301976 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov , >> theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:44:02 +0000 >> >> I have asked the question before, but freedom or not, the above is a >> nuisance to run for every language. > > Which is why distros should make them available, like they do with > other dependencies. OK, then I hope this will improve soon, because it seems that at least under Debian (testing) no such packages exist right now. >> If the process is as automatic as the above example demonstrates, >> shouldn't Emacs have a command to take a grammar and compile+install >> it? > > It _is_ as simple as above (modulo the need to detect C++ sources and > use g++ in that case). And I already said that such a command will > have its place in Emacs (and Stefan agrees, AFAIU). So there should > be no argument anymore about the possibility; it's just a matter of > Someone sitting down and coding the darn thing. Like everything else > in Emacs. I'd be glad to help, if I knew what the interface/input/output should be. But I'm guessing that is half the work. >> What would be even better is if the grammars were to be distributed >> along with Emacs (either in a tarball or as a dependency a package >> manage would install). > > Not going to happen, for the reasons I already explained several > times. In a nutshell: we cannot and will not distribute binaries, and > distributing sources is not useful enough to justify the maintenance > headaches of distribution someone else's code. Great, thanks for the explanation.