From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Augusto Stoffel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unboxed package manager Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:57:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87o7olg9mq.fsf@gmail.com> References: <57668895-8EEA-44F7-BD46-9CDFAA11FD2C@gmail.com> <87zg87saw8.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfdxgc0f.fsf@gmail.com> <87a605or8e.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="743"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Lynn Winebarger , Yuan Fu , emacs-devel To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 21 20:59:14 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pei8W-000AWh-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:59:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pei7M-0003iI-Oa; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pei7K-0003fx-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x52c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52c]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pei7I-0000PU-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id cy23so64182281edb.12 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1679428671; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=j57utG7Dx8UMaxdDQXTHI7cQHJQSU+t8RQw8N4vfhYI=; b=V9uT6pOr47e5zQ6cd/NFozuBYI6nIgOOs4jaGmpKvxikslxjDrY5LwY4GTPSCoUauE T66pI4Tn99AvEHKpIsOPmqSyMbAPEHCYYvzXMR7A+3sjn5gu00Q+ImENXiTC3FxiVt9n ECuDdoj7SFNmO4a4SEF2nCTGcuGi5U6E2HnDpcvCLK9wDp2dY2llaKdi0UDFj200qU2y BnRbVzjFrHQpTXFvzmmZOOs8ekxEzn0ozT8M2YsF/mU6gK70tKgW05ShvmrBB15PK3VC VZo3gF7uOJ5CuKNdqoxlGXpkShEapR3DPRen4dg0VeDEWqypvXs66Odl1Vh3QVLuaXCo 7GUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679428671; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=j57utG7Dx8UMaxdDQXTHI7cQHJQSU+t8RQw8N4vfhYI=; b=QAasNJ/YuGq1KjOs/FLXnqv5tpQgRqPlFmNT7apK7JSHpRvLqMa4AbTfkmcQC2qRT6 siyT6ysHTKmE6DwSQT36DmvV3Opx0WKMiQCvvc1RmaM3TXmrCR3Aoy81hxhXcRbWFc08 plMQL90bx6t/rgtGkTz+J0CfBCAGV8JOHteyqN/Ngv21j+AdtrpF6wrpeJIchIZ0AdIu 2A2EAmR6u1dtoZ49v3QIggZPXyOcsEoFG1wJBJeYBxmKQAFtk8cPe6ePV2WhE8nckOeO zX6f5a2EPdJQc+EaUqqlAa4/+f80KVulJ2W/cEcjw8yem7pbiKXEMfyDlJAPSLvCzqTN xJvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWSJQrVshhH03cYMopekDeTEYVDVQqrDyYzQ1xQ3KLayjS4MIZf skl9XeljT8ceD163/1wt9HvqeWoef50= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+Pd9YwCHbpgG6GQXQRyEMBc4HFoC/wtXQuTAnX0r/BSb4fhTR6FWWlHOc3yG5rh7dLkiUnEQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:150c:b0:931:df8d:113 with SMTP id b12-20020a170906150c00b00931df8d0113mr5283310ejd.26.1679428671588; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ars3 ([2a02:8109:8ac0:56d0::8ca4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q18-20020a170906b29200b008c607dd7cefsm6176384ejz.79.2023.03.21.12.57.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a605or8e.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:10:25 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=arstoffel@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304681 Archived-At: On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 19:10, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Augusto Stoffel writes: > >> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 15:25, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > There is no strict need for this to be a package manager. I propose > something like that a year ago: > > https://wwwcip.cs.fau.de/~oj14ozun/src+etc/site-lisp.el > > In principle I could bundle this into a package and add it to ELPA. Yes, I remember that. And if memory serves someone argued that this could be greatly generalized and etc., which is probably true. Anyway, I think it makes sense for basic things one needs to write a sensible configuration to be built in, but if there's no consensus as to how the ideal "site-lisp.el" should look like, then a package is better than nothing.