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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: arthur.miller@live.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cond* vs pcase
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 18:57:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7cts9nc.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1rXPEL-0000nD-Iw@fencepost.gnu.org> (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Tue, 06 Feb 2024 12:27:33 -0500")

"Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org> writes:

>    > Because your not doing pattern matching, you're comparing against a
>    > set of strings/symbols/numbers/....
>
>    Simply because pattern matching is a more powerful generalisation,
>    capable of expressing case-distinction; in the end it compiles down to
>    almost the same code anyway.
>
> Are you suggesting that COND/CASE/... and other "trivial" matching
> constructs should be replaced with PCASE/COND*?

No, just that using pcase in these cases isn't wrong.

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> Simply because [1] pattern matching is a more
>> powerful generalisation, capable of expressing
>> case-distinction; [2] in the end it compiles
>> down to almost the same code anyway.
>
> Wow.  Really _not_ a good reason (IMHO).
> Neither of those reasons [1,2] is good.
>
> With that reasoning you'll use `pcase'
> _always and everywhere_ - never `if',
> `cond', `let', `or', `and',...

Please don't be dishonest; My question was why cl-case was more
appropriate than pcase, where both are macros that boil down to simpler
primitives.  I don't see an inherent advantage to using the more
specific abstraction over the more generic one.  I like pcase, and
prefer using it in my code, but if you've got some code that is already
using a lot of cl-lib and no pcase, then there is no point in transiting
cl-case forms into pcase.

>
> Hey, `pcase' can do it all!  And it
> compiles down to almost the same thing!
>
> "Demain on rase gratis !"



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-06 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05 14:30 cond* vs pcase Arthur Miller
2024-02-05 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-05 16:06 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-05 18:39   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-06 12:30     ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-06 16:17     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-06 16:35       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-06 16:50       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-06 17:27         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-06 18:57           ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-02-06 19:04             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-06 19:39               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-06 23:17                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-06 19:12             ` Drew Adams
2024-02-06 20:08               ` Adam Porter
2024-02-06 23:32                 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-07 13:14                   ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-07 13:43                     ` Po Lu
2024-02-07 17:09                       ` Drew Adams
2024-02-07 17:44                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-02-09  3:52                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-07 18:00                       ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-07 18:22                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-08  1:55                           ` Po Lu
2024-02-08  2:49                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-08  3:36                               ` Po Lu
2024-02-08  7:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 17:01                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-08 17:01                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-09  1:30                               ` Po Lu
2024-02-08  5:01                         ` Po Lu
     [not found]                           ` <DU2PR02MB10109B7AC39F995BFE266EF5396442@DU2PR02MB10109.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
2024-02-08  7:36                             ` Sv: " Arthur Miller
2024-02-12 21:39                       ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-02-07 17:14                     ` Drew Adams
2024-02-07  5:32             ` Yuri Khan
2024-02-07 12:43               ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-07 17:41                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-07 18:36                   ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-07 19:12                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-07 21:20                       ` Arthur Miller
2024-02-06 17:29         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-06 17:41           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-06 17:50         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-02-06 19:04           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-07 15:03           ` Barry Fishman
2024-02-07 17:22             ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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