From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: James Ipswich <james.ipswich@proton.me>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Reconsider make-backup-files default value
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 21:24:19 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o74l2iyk.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o74ndcxy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:02:01 +0300")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> I would hesitate to change such long-time defaults. I'm guessing many
> people have good use of these backup files (I do) and expect to have
> them (I do); changing the default means they all will need to
> customize Emacs, and that's _after_ they find out the behavior changed
> and curse us, silently or otherwise.
>
> If someone dislikes these backup files and doesn't need them,
> customizing that away is so easy that I wonder why we need to argue
> about changing these long-time defaults. It almost never makes a good
> use of everyone's time. Arguing for changes in defaults of user
> options is only useful when the existing default makes absolutely no
> sense in any reasonable use case.
To be quite honest, I don't understand why the default state of backup
files has arisen for "deep philosophical" debate. The number of
occasions where backup files have rescued someone from a very unpleasant
experience, or where they have simply provided valuable data after a
file was overwritten, must be beyond count in the case of any Emacs user
or installation. Their usefulness is plain for all to see.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-18 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-15 22:19 Reconsider make-backup-files default value James Ipswich
2024-09-15 23:29 ` Jeremy Baxter
2024-09-16 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 20:14 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2024-09-18 21:46 ` Christopher Howard
2024-09-19 5:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 6:10 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-19 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 23:40 ` pinmacs
2024-09-16 12:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 0:03 ` James Ipswich
2024-09-16 0:14 ` Jeremy Baxter
2024-09-16 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 13:24 ` Po Lu [this message]
2024-09-18 13:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-18 23:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-19 2:41 ` Po Lu
2024-09-19 5:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-09-20 8:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-09-19 5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
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2024-09-16 0:15 Martin Edström
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