Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

[Philip Kaludercic]

Hi,

Sacha Chua has asked me to present this years "Emacs development update"
at Emacs Conf [0], specifically focusing on Emacs 30.  I think we have a
good overview of the most interesting features from Emacs 30 on Emacs
Wiki [1], or is there anything else we should mention?

I wanted to ask if someone could summarise me the status of the the
incremental GC branch?  From what I understand (as I didn't have the
time to follow the thread), that is the biggest upcoming feature.

[0] https://emacsconf.org/2024/
[1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsThirtyHighlights

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic on icterid

Re: Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:20:06 +0000
> 
> Sacha Chua has asked me to present this years "Emacs development update"
> at Emacs Conf [0], specifically focusing on Emacs 30.  I think we have a
> good overview of the most interesting features from Emacs 30 on Emacs
> Wiki [1], or is there anything else we should mention?
> 
> I wanted to ask if someone could summarise me the status of the the
> incremental GC branch?  From what I understand (as I didn't have the
> time to follow the thread), that is the biggest upcoming feature.
> 
> [0] https://emacsconf.org/2024/
> [1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsThirtyHighlights

It isn't clear to me whether your presentation should focus on Emacs
30 or Emacs 31 or something else.  The igc branch may be ready in time
for Emacs 31, but even that is not sure at this time; it certainly
won't be in Emacs 30.

IMO, it's too early to talk about what will be in Emacs 31.  Even if
you want to describe a small number of major new features, there's not
yet enough stuff in NEWS for that.  Better support for DND on Windows
and color fonts on MS-Windows is probably good news for users of
Windows, but that's Windows-only news.

If the subject is interesting future developments in Emacs, then igc
is by far the most interesting one.  But I don't have any suggestions
for any others.

For Emacs 30, just go by Antinews in the two manuals: they are
supposed to mention the more important changes.

HTH, and thanks in advance.

Re: Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

[Stefan Kangas]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> For Emacs 30, just go by Antinews in the two manuals: they are
> supposed to mention the more important changes.

See also (info "(efaq) New in Emacs 30").

Re: Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

[Philip Kaludercic]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
>> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:20:06 +0000
>> 
>> Sacha Chua has asked me to present this years "Emacs development update"
>> at Emacs Conf [0], specifically focusing on Emacs 30.  I think we have a
>> good overview of the most interesting features from Emacs 30 on Emacs
>> Wiki [1], or is there anything else we should mention?
>> 
>> I wanted to ask if someone could summarise me the status of the the
>> incremental GC branch?  From what I understand (as I didn't have the
>> time to follow the thread), that is the biggest upcoming feature.
>> 
>> [0] https://emacsconf.org/2024/
>> [1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsThirtyHighlights
>
> It isn't clear to me whether your presentation should focus on Emacs
> 30 or Emacs 31 or something else.  The igc branch may be ready in time
> for Emacs 31, but even that is not sure at this time; it certainly
> won't be in Emacs 30.

The idea was to focus on Emacs 30; I was just wondering if there was
already something that would be worth mentioning from Emacs 31.

> IMO, it's too early to talk about what will be in Emacs 31.  Even if
> you want to describe a small number of major new features, there's not
> yet enough stuff in NEWS for that.  Better support for DND on Windows
> and color fonts on MS-Windows is probably good news for users of
> Windows, but that's Windows-only news.
>
> If the subject is interesting future developments in Emacs, then igc
> is by far the most interesting one.  But I don't have any suggestions
> for any others.

OK, then I'll probably just talk about Emacs 30.

> For Emacs 30, just go by Antinews in the two manuals: they are
> supposed to mention the more important changes.

1+

> HTH, and thanks in advance.

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic on siskin

Re: Suggestions for "Emacs development updates" at Emacs Conf

[Sacha Chua]

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

>>> Sacha Chua has asked me to present this years "Emacs development update"
>>> at Emacs Conf [0], specifically focusing on Emacs 30.  I think we have a
> OK, then I'll probably just talk about Emacs 30.

Oh, it could talk about stuff in Emacs 31 too, but I understand from the
thread that it might be too early to talk about the things people are
working on for future versions. Since we're in the pretest part of the
release cycle, your talk could focus on Emacs 30 highlights and
encourage people to try the pretests so that emacs-devel can get more
feedback.

In the past, John Wiegley's development updates have been kind of a
overview of things from emacs-devel that people might want to know about
(since the mailing list is hard for many people to follow), but you can
take it in whatever direction you want. =)

https://emacsconf.org/2023/talks/devel/
https://emacsconf.org/2022/talks/devel/
https://emacsconf.org/2021/talks/dev-update/
https://emacsconf.org/2020/talks/38/
https://emacsconf.org/2019/talks/03/

Sacha