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Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:14:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86plmnoim2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:03:33 +0200") Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::332; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x332.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325576 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:03:33 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >> Yes, there has lately appeared a ``relentless modernization drive'',= if >> you will. Most of these changes are not worth the controversy they >> create. Eli> Given that many community members seem to think our current approa= ch Eli> is actually too conservative and prevents faster progress, I guess= the Eli> reality is somewhere in the middle, probably quite farther from th= at Eli> "relentless modernization" than you seem to imply. I suspect that Po Lu (and Alan) were talking more about the increase in the use of cl and pcase (which I still haven=CA=BCt got my head around, and now we already have cond* as well). Robert --=20