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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: W32 version crashes on C-g
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:11:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mzfno9e3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umzfn4m02.fsf@jasonrumney.net> (Jason Rumney's message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:59:41 +0000")

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> from nt/INSTALL:
>
>   MSYS sh.exe also appears to cause various problems. If you have
>   MSYS installed, try "make SHELL=cmd.exe" to force the use of cmd.exe
>   instead of sh.exe.
>
> Emacs used to build only with msvc, nmake and cmd.exe. The problem
> with this situation is that it is a non-Free set of tools. A lot of
> effort was put in to make Emacs build with gcc. Bug reports quickly
> came in that Emacs didn't build with Cygwin bash as the shell, so this
> was fixed. Now we have people complaining that it doesn't build with
> MSYS as the shell, despite the INSTALL file warning against that.

That's the nature of progress.

This is somewhat off-topic, but a long time ago, I posted on
gnu.emacs.help that a small tweak to a Makefile allows Emacs to
compile with the version of make that comes with MingW/MSYS, even in
the MSYS shell:

  I get an error when compiling Emacs 21.3 on Windows 2000, using
  Mingw's gcc.exe and mingw32-make.exe (renamed to make.exe):

  "./../bin/emacs.exe" -batch --no-init-file --no-site-file --multibyte
  -l autoload \
          --eval "(setq find-file-hook nil \
                  find-file-suppress-same-file-warnings t \
                  generated-autoload-file \
                    \"C:/home/emacs/lisp/loaddefs.el\")" \
          -f batch-update-autoloads "C:/home/emacs/lisp"
  Wrote c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home.macslisploaddefs.el
  Loading vc-cvs (source)...
  Wrote c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home?macslisploaddefs.el
  Autoloads file c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home.macslisploaddefs.el does
  not exist
  make: *** [all] Error -1

  The problem seems to be that either emacs.exe or cmd (the Windows
  command shell) munges the ":" character, even when it is enclosed by
  quotation marks. If I edit the Makefile by hand to eliminate the
  colon, i.e.,

                    \"./loaddefs.el\")" \

  then the compilation succeeds.

> It is clear that people will use whatever tools and shells they want
> to, and we must do our best to make them work and document it. While
> singling out one toolset to document might make things easier for
> newcomers, it will also offend a large number of zealots who prefer
> some other toolset.

We can probably live with a bit of offense.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-18 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-17 10:41 W32 version crashes on C-g Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 11:46 ` Eric Lilja
2006-03-17 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 12:28   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 12:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 14:04   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 14:20     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 14:49       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 16:07         ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-17 16:08         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18  1:13           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18  7:51             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 11:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 16:52         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 17:06           ` Drew Adams
2006-03-17 18:00           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-17 23:27             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18  0:01               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18  5:49                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18  7:48                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 12:46                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 18:30           ` Binaries for W32 (was: W32 version crashes on C-g) Reiner Steib
2006-03-17 18:42             ` Drew Adams
2006-03-17 18:56               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-17 18:58                 ` Drew Adams
2006-03-20 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2006-03-21 10:29                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-22 15:16                       ` Mathias Dahl
2006-03-25 10:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18  1:21           ` W32 version crashes on C-g Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18  6:00             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 11:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 12:45                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 15:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 16:55                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 17:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 20:38                         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 21:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 20:46                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-19  1:32               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-21 10:35                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-21 12:43                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-21 15:22                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 10:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-19  1:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 17:14           ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 17:15           ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-18 18:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 18:59             ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-18 19:11               ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2006-03-18 22:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-19  0:46           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18 16:27         ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 17:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 16:29         ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 18:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 19:04           ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-18 10:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-17 12:58 LENNART BORGMAN

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