From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new Emacs maintainer(s)? Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87myzdxlte.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <878xb05ras.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200706041853.l54IrLXb006451@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200706051632.l55GWNSZ026462@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <87ps4aue45.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy55cy7v.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <86y7ixjwtd.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87tztlbcs0.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <868xaxjqtw.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87vee1xpds.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <86zm3di8xx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181135964 23603 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2007 13:19:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 06 15:19:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HvvPz-0003k8-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:19:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HvvPy-0006Bc-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HvvPt-00068P-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HvvPs-000667-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HvvPr-00065p-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:19:11 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out3.libero.it ([212.52.84.43]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HvvPq-00028X-Kb; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:19:10 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (172.31.0.47) by smtp-out3.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4611FE5E045AA359; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:19:10 +0200 X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Original-Received: from smtp-out1.libero.it ([172.31.0.37]) by localhost (asav-out6.libero.it [192.168.32.34]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uuAfVvVJews5; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:19:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ambire.localdomain (151.21.33.102) by smtp-out1.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4611FC910504E1A0; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:19:09 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvvPp-00029a-Np; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:19:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86zm3di8xx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed\, 06 Jun 2007 14\:06\:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72333 Archived-At: () David Kastrup () Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:06:18 +0200 I disagree. x.1 is mostly done in the trunk, x.2+ mostly in a stabilized branch. It is my opinion that this requires different skillsets for most of the time. a release coalesces around some vision for that release, not on a skillset. it is precisely because there are different skillsets required that whoever does x.1 should do x.2+, for three reasons: - cohesion of vision for the x.* releases - self-improvement in the "maintenance" skillset for x.1 folks - self-improvement in the ".1 release" skillset for (x+1).1 folks what often happens when skillset is taken as the arbiter is that the x.2+ folks lose the original vision of the x.1 folks, through mis- or non-communication more than anything, and widen the maintenance duties to "fix design bugs". then you get into "how dare that Mere QA Dude change My code" and other class{ic,ist} organizational problems. i'd say "that way lies madness" but for the stupifying regularity (and hence evident normalcy) of such an approach's consequence. anyway, that's all i have to say on the matter. heinlein sez: "specialization is for insects." thi