From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: desktop.el: autosave? Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:57:59 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87mysridxt.fsf@jurta.org> References: <8763zjfe0v.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196723218 3494 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 23:06:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rrt@sc3d.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 04 00:07:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzKNV-0006zU-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:07:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzKNE-0000og-Qg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:06:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzKM9-0008Pw-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:05:41 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzKM8-0008OB-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:05:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzKM7-0008O0-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:05:39 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IzKM2-0006cX-Ax; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IzKM0-000HqT-2b; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:05:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:41:10 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1843 [Dec 03 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84620 Archived-At: > But maybe instead of requiring putting this code in .emacs for > every user who want to save the desktop periodically, we should > add a new user option to desktop.el that specifies time interval > of auto-saving? > > I agree, we should add some such feature. > > I think the default value of `auto-save-timeout' > is too frequent for a heavy function `desktop-save'. > > Maybe so, but auto-saving based on idle time is an important feature. > Whatever we write for automatically saving the desktop should also > include a feature to do it after a certain amount of idle time, > perhaps 5 mins by default. That way, if you occasionally take typing > breaks, Emacs will never interrupt your actual work to save the desktop. I'm not sure an idle timer is good for this feature. I want to auto-save the desktop at quite long time intervals (an hour or so), but usually Emacs is not idle for this time. So it seems we need a non-idle timer. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/