From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tabbed buffers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:31:11 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myqq5p2o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JJOFf-0001JD-TK@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard Stallman writes:
> All I was pointing out was that if we introduce frame-level
> tabs, then it might make sense to treat the current
> "multiple-frames on a single tty" as tabs rather than as
> frames.
>
> That seems like an unnecessary complication with no benefit.
The benefit is that the tabs provide a visual cue (which many users
will have experience with) of what alternatives are available via
`next-tab' or `pop-to-tab'.
I don't think it is a good idea to think of tabs per se as associated
with any given content class. They are a UI component, like any other
widget such as toolbar or radio button box (each of which is very
similar to a tab and could be used to simulate a tab control).
I think Alan's idea of a frameset (possibly implemented as Stefan
describes, but this area is conceptually hairy since a frame is the
biggest object Emacs deals with so tabs have to be *in* the frame,
while from the users' point of view it *acts like* multiple frames) is
probably the best default use of tabs. Users will understand it
immediately. Some will hate it for stealing precious screen real
estate, so there must be a way to turn it off. But users new to Emacs
or to multitty will find it a convenient way to learn about that
facility.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-28 8:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-25 21:57 Tabbed buffers Nick Roberts
2008-01-25 22:40 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-25 23:41 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-26 0:07 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-26 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26 5:03 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-26 7:24 ` Thomas Lord
2008-01-26 19:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26 14:38 ` Chong Yidong
2008-01-27 0:44 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 1:21 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-27 1:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 16:04 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 1:50 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27 1:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-27 2:10 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27 0:45 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 16:13 ` T. V. Raman
2008-01-27 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 23:31 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-28 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 8:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-01-28 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 17:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 19:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 21:30 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-29 6:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-29 7:19 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-29 8:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 23:05 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-01-30 6:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-30 7:53 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-01-28 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-29 7:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-30 6:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-01 3:50 ` T. V. Raman
2008-02-01 18:26 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-03 2:06 ` T. V. Raman
2008-02-03 16:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 19:55 ` Using several frames on TTYs, switching them, terminology: [Is also: Tabbed buffers] Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-27 20:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 21:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-28 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-01 3:32 ` T. V. Raman
2008-01-27 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 21:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-28 2:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 15:42 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-01-28 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-26 9:14 ` Tabbed buffers Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 11:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-26 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 0:12 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27 4:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 4:48 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27 8:05 ` Is there any document about Emacs implementation (C source code)? brianjiang
2008-01-27 9:40 ` dhruva
2008-01-27 20:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-27 20:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 17:18 ` Tabbed buffers Eli Zaretskii
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