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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tabbed buffers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:31:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myqq5p2o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JJOFf-0001JD-TK@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:

 >     All I was pointing out was that if we introduce frame-level
 >     tabs, then it might make sense to treat the current
 >     "multiple-frames on a single tty" as tabs rather than as
 >     frames.
 > 
 > That seems like an unnecessary complication with no benefit.

The benefit is that the tabs provide a visual cue (which many users
will have experience with) of what alternatives are available via
`next-tab' or `pop-to-tab'.

I don't think it is a good idea to think of tabs per se as associated
with any given content class.  They are a UI component, like any other
widget such as toolbar or radio button box (each of which is very
similar to a tab and could be used to simulate a tab control).

I think Alan's idea of a frameset (possibly implemented as Stefan
describes, but this area is conceptually hairy since a frame is the
biggest object Emacs deals with so tabs have to be *in* the frame,
while from the users' point of view it *acts like* multiple frames) is
probably the best default use of tabs.  Users will understand it
immediately.  Some will hate it for stealing precious screen real
estate, so there must be a way to turn it off.  But users new to Emacs
or to multitty will find it a convenient way to learn about that
facility.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-25 21:57 Tabbed buffers Nick Roberts
2008-01-25 22:40 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-25 23:41   ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-26  0:07     ` Miles Bader
2008-01-26  2:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  5:03         ` Miles Bader
2008-01-26  7:24           ` Thomas Lord
2008-01-26 19:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26 14:38         ` Chong Yidong
2008-01-27  0:44           ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27  1:21             ` Miles Bader
2008-01-27  1:41               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 16:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27  1:50               ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27  1:58                 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-27  2:10                   ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27  0:45         ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 16:13             ` T. V. Raman
2008-01-27 20:59               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 20:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 23:31               ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-28  2:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28  7:17               ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28  8:31                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-01-28 15:17                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 17:22                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 18:18                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28 19:18                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 21:30                           ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-29  6:53                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-29  7:19                               ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-29  8:08                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 21:32                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 23:05                       ` Bastien Guerry
2008-01-30  6:16                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-30  7:53                           ` Bastien Guerry
2008-01-28 21:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-29  7:10                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-30  6:16                       ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-01  3:50               ` T. V. Raman
2008-02-01 18:26                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-03  2:06                   ` T. V. Raman
2008-02-03 16:18                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 19:55           ` Using several frames on TTYs, switching them, terminology: [Is also: Tabbed buffers] Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-27 20:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 21:33               ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-28  4:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-01  3:32               ` T. V. Raman
2008-01-27 21:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-27 21:50               ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-28  2:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-28  7:17             ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 15:42               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-01-28 21:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-26  9:14   ` Tabbed buffers Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 11:36     ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-26  9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27  0:12   ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27  4:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27  4:48       ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27  8:05         ` Is there any document about Emacs implementation (C source code)? brianjiang
2008-01-27  9:40           ` dhruva
2008-01-27 20:32             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-27 20:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 17:18         ` Tabbed buffers Eli Zaretskii

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