From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:19:49 +0900 Message-ID: <87myqcp7m2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <8e24944a0802030338i1ce3397yba581ffedbe2f118@mail.gmail.com> <47A5B737.8000804@swipnet.se> <8e24944a0802030512t77c4ca20s6d059df50295ebd2@mail.gmail.com> <8e24944a0802041302n45064c4fm2ac428ceda204254@mail.gmail.com> <47A80B57.3050402@swipnet.se> <8e24944a0802061957re4baf7cr9560fa3496be56b4@mail.gmail.com> <8e24944a0802070815n18dea273j5c3962235d91ca8e@mail.gmail.com> <87bq6sir34.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8e24944a0802071007u7a6a6d3cl9e98f93489fa8f1e@mail.gmail.com> <8763x0incq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202433622 3637 80.91.229.12 (8 Feb 2008 01:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Horsley, Tom" , rms@gnu.org, David De La Harpe Golden , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Jan D." To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 08 02:20:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNHv0-0007ck-Hy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:20:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNHuX-00059Q-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:20:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNHuT-00057a-Sv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:20:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNHuS-00055R-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:20:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNHuS-00055J-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:20:08 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNHuK-0007Sf-ND; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:20:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-023.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.23] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JNHuB-0002sr-G1; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:19:51 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C80B2FF7; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:19:50 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <8763x0incq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:21:41 +0900") Original-Lines: 20 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88477 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Have you given thought to queueing (ie, at the back of the kill-ring) > the primary selection rather than pushing it (on the front)? Seems an > obvious "best of both worlds combination" of current Emacs behavior > and purist X11 semantics. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. What I (and many others) like about the current implementation is that you can do "Select" in say, xterm, and then do "C-y" in Emacs to yank that selection. It sounds like your idea would instead make the current selection available via "C-y M-y" which sounds maddeningly unintuitive -- the current selection, after all, is _current_... -Miles -- Patience, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue.