From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:15:30 +0900 Message-ID: <87mypcn4od.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204758965 24903 80.91.229.12 (5 Mar 2008 23:16:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:16:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 00:16:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JX2qP-0006kc-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:16:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX2ps-0003Uu-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:15:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX2pn-0003UP-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX2pm-0003TY-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX2pm-0003TF-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:15:38 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JX2pi-000135-2u; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:15:34 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-102-071.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.102.71] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JX2pf-0005TW-NL; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:15:31 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D46E2FF7; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:15:30 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <200803052230.m25MUORx001881@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:30:24 -0800") Original-Lines: 20 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91432 Archived-At: Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > I'd rather improve the general completion mechanism, than only improve > > it for buffer selection. > > That would be great too. But we also need to consider the fact iswitch > is here now, it works and is useful .... and is a completely and utterly different interface, one which is hated by many, and arguably is extremely confusing for newbies. You can't just drop in such a radical and controversial change by saying "oh, but it's here now, and it works..." I think a rather more evolutionary approach to improving to the general completion interface is much better, and safer. -Miles -- Come now, if we were really planning to harm you, would we be waiting here, beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?