From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:56:35 +0900 Message-ID: <87myp2w53g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcff5upc.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87fxuxsg3m.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87r6egp8oo.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <47D86DC6.4080805@gmail.com> <85od9j9if1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87d4py3i8z.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <86wso67nxi.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87tzjawe8o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85y78m8f1q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205452121 31320 80.91.229.12 (13 Mar 2008 23:48:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" , miles@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 00:49:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZxAa-00066G-5b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:49:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZxA1-0004P3-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZx9y-0004OP-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZx9w-0004O8-Gz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZx9w-0004O5-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZx9l-00021F-6S; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16551535A8; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:48:14 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EF9C11EFFC; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:56:35 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <85y78m8f1q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 2785829fe37c XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92452 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > How do you expect us to come up with an incompatible implementation > without volunteering more details? Well, the only detail I know off hand is that the variable controlling the behavior is `shifted-motion-keys-select-region' and that it defaults to t. My only point here was to admit that 3rd party developers should not hope that XEmacs's decade-old working implementation will soon be made conformable to GNU's not-yet-decided one. I see no point in going into detail, especially as that would cost me some hours studying code I have never touched.