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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
	Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:21:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myo1h5wz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wsn54owg.fsf@gmail.com>

Paul R writes:

 > At least, it would surely benefit from more manpower. [...] As a
 > start, some "long-settled aspects of Emacs" should probably get
 > revamped, and talking about them here is a good start, IMO.

Eric Raymond and others pushed this thread in Dec-Jan.  The conclusion
was (more or less) that Emacs is what it is, and while experienced
contributors listening to enthusiastic newbies is a good idea, so is
newcomers listening to the old hands.  What the old hands said was
"let's be careful that in turning Emacs into Eclipse we don't throw
out what makes Emacs special."

There are plenty of things that can be added to Emacs (tab controls,
for example) that do not require any changes to the habits of Ye Olde
Garde, but will be familiar/useful to newcomers.  Better to focus
there, perhaps?





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-09 21:09 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Drew Adams
2008-04-09 21:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-09 22:15   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10  6:33     ` David Hansen
2008-04-10  9:20       ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-10  8:31     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-10 12:55   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 13:45     ` Paul R
2008-04-10 15:49     ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-10 15:45       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 16:24         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-10 16:15           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 21:09             ` David Kastrup
2008-04-10 22:34               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-11  2:23             ` Glenn Morris
2008-04-11  5:03               ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-11  8:03                 ` tomas
2008-04-12  0:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  1:13                   ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12  5:49                     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-12  7:31                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 14:03                         ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12 20:07                           ` David Kastrup
2008-04-12 21:24                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12 20:34                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-11  8:41               ` Paul R
2008-04-11  9:40               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 17:10           ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-10 17:10             ` Paul R
2008-04-10 19:21               ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-04-12  0:11         ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 16:18     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-12  0:09       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  0:09       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  8:40         ` Nit-picking (was: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map) Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12  9:35           ` Nit-picking Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 10:30             ` Nit-picking Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 11:46               ` Being constructive [Was: Nit-picking] Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 13:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 14:14                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-12 16:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 17:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 21:38                 ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-12 15:06         ` 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Drew Adams
2008-04-13  1:58           ` Richard Stallman

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