From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:42:54 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216154785 29452 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2008 20:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 22:47:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIrQS-0004Tt-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:47:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44003 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIrPa-0004IW-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIrOq-0003zf-Ri for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIrOp-0003zA-O6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60503 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIrOp-0003yo-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:45:27 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:53597) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIrOo-0000Bc-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:45:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KIrOk-000INH-I7; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:45:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:41:08 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 068dd79c68aafbc760c35e97c5d420ed X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4324 [July 15 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100749 Archived-At: > `describe-char' currently displays the character, but in cases where the > font is not capable of that, just the codepoint number is not very > useful for the user. The character's Unicode name would be nice, but > the user has to customize `describe-char-unidata-list'. At least the > Unicode name ('name) should be in `describe-char-unidata-list' by > default. Since `describe-char' is used rarely and the user really wants > to know about the character, I think this is sensible. It could also be > used for `what-cursor-position' which is similarly rarely used. Displaying the full Unicode information was turned off by default, because licence conditions of the Unicode data file prohibited adding it to Emacs, so the user had to download the data file and point the variable to the location of this file to be able to see the full information from it. But since now it is available in Emacs without the need to download it, it makes sense to display its full Unicode information by default. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/